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To: Natural Law; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

Every church outside the Catholic church that I’ve been in, and it covers a WIDE range of denominations, celebrates communion with both the bread and the cup.

Unless you can provide evidence that there are other denominations which prohibited its members from partaking of the cup like the Catholic church did.

And how about answering the questions?

Why did the Catholic church remove the cup, and under whose authority, in direct disobedience to the commands of Jesus Himself?

And I’m sure that the others pinged here can confirm that when they take communion, they partake of BOTH elements, both the bread AND cup, jsut as Jesus commanded.


1,158 posted on 06/03/2012 8:50:55 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"Every church outside the Catholic church that I’ve been in, and it covers a WIDE range of denominations, celebrates communion with both the bread and the cup."

Are you now declaring that you speak for every church outside the Catholic Church or can we just agree that this was more of the usual hyperbole. The truth is that you can only recite a few anecdotes. How representative they are of "every Church outside the Catholic Church is doubtful.

"Why did the Catholic church remove the cup, and under whose authority, in direct disobedience to the commands of Jesus Himself?"

The Church has removed nothing. I receive the Eucharist in both species daily. If by circumstance the Eucharist should only be available in a single species it would be no less Christ who is wholly sacramentally present under each of the species.

I don't know why you think it OK to pass off this transignification, empiricist claptrap as Catholic doctrine, but it isn't clever and it isn't honest. Please be aware that I will continue to be a counter to it and will continue to post the truth for all to see. Those who genuinely seek the truth will be able to independently verify and see through your canard. If you are honestly in error it can be an opportunity for your enlightenment as well.

Peace be with you.

1,159 posted on 06/03/2012 9:25:59 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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