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To: Natural Law; CynicalBear; boatbums; smvoice; daniel1212; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...

Wiggle all you want.

It says that it’s changed and nobody has ever seen it so. It looks like the host and tastes like wheat.

It’s either the literal, actual, physical flesh and blood of Christ, or it’s a symbolic representation.

The *real presence* explanation is simply word games played with definitions to try to explain away why what they claim has happened hasn’t really.


1,121 posted on 06/03/2012 12:57:33 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"It’s either the literal, actual, physical flesh and blood of Christ, or it’s a symbolic representation."

I can't be any more clear than what has already been posted. When hundreds of millions have no problem understanding this perhaps the problem isn't with the Church's teaching but is with your ability or willingness to learn. The truth in the Church's teachings is not limited by your inability to comprehend. I suggest you do your homework before participating in these discussions.

Peace be with you

1,122 posted on 06/03/2012 1:13:21 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: metmom
If it takes a philosophical mumbo-jumbo (pick the school of philosophy) to explain why bread and wine isn't “really” bread and wine but rather the undetectable “substance” (we have our own definition of words and you'll just have to accept them) that doesn't change, or does it.

Moreover a cracker, baked in an ordinary bakery, can be worshiped whereas an angel of Revelation cannot.......Can we say this a doctrine constructed of men according to the philosophy of men?

1,138 posted on 06/03/2012 3:59:57 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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