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To: Lazamataz

“On Ted’s side, he says “God is only available my way. The other way sucks. Sobriety is only avaiable my way. The other way sucks.”

That is your twisited to spin on the matter. I am just saying that what AA teaches about alcoholism is untrue.

My book is available over at Smashwords for .99 cents. Hardly a monetary motivation. If anyone wants it free email me at adamsonted@gmail and I will gladly seen you a free coupon code.

I was deeply involved in AA. I was an Intergroup Representative, Secretary of a Speaker meeting, and and H&I chair with Narcotics Anonymous. I have been a speaker at many meetings, both in NA and AA.

What I am saying conflicts with the brainwashing you have accepted, and it disturbs you.

I want people to be Born Again and be Children of God, not cripples dependent on going to meetings the rest of their life and believing lies.


64 posted on 05/16/2012 8:35:50 AM PDT by tedw
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To: tedw
Briefly, and then I have some brainwashing to be done at work: I am only disturbed that you are denegrating a possible avenue to God. To say that AA is untrue is to denegrate them, no matter how YOU want to spin it. No one signs up to follow something that is untrue.

AA in no way impedes a person becoming a Christian. In fact, it often LEADS to someone becoming a Christian. Further, I have seen people 'graduate' successfully from AA and go on to become an even more spiritual person. I have seen them give up AA and go on to church.

But I don't see them denegrating AA and saying the path that got them sober and on better footing with God is UNTRUE.

You may be, should someone be foolish enough to listen to your denegration, having a hand in someone's death. You may be having a hand in PREVENTING them from getting to know God.

What worked for you might kill me. What worked for me might kill you. That's why I do not denegrate your path, but recommend that people find the way that works for them.

So, if I am 'brainwashed' enough to be open to whatever works for a person to sober them up, and eventually get them to Christ, but you are 'brainwashed' enough to deny any other path but yours as correct, WHO IS TRULY BRAINWASHED?

Physician, heal thyself.

65 posted on 05/16/2012 8:44:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: tedw

I walked into AA and one week later turned my life over to Jesus. The people that lead me were not allowed in many meeting across town because they were adament about salvation being spoken about in AA.

I quickly found out that was not allowed. Many sober folks would blow a fuse if you even thought about sharing Jesus.

So I can understand your point of view. Nonetheless AA helps many to not take a drink one day at a time and theres a place for that despite Jesus not being allowed.

In my case a wise Christian used AA to stay sober by working the 12th step outside the doors. He just had to keep his views “disguised” untill the meetings were over.


66 posted on 05/16/2012 8:47:22 AM PDT by winodog
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