Sorry Jeff - Gospel Principles states something quite the opposite. Show me the from your standard works that specifically outlines what you say. I've already presented a passage from D&C that contradicts you.
Each member individually can take messages to heart from any that the leaders speak or deliver, as I also stated, and apply them in their life accordingly.
Oh, so you can make up your own scripture as needed eh?
What you do not like is that the actual process and definition for the cannon of scripture does not match up with your interpretation, desire, and preconcieved notions regard them.
Not correct Jeff, I've cited your church doctrinal teaching materials, D&C and can cite other of your prophets that do not agree with your opinion as well. Your posts only go to show that there is no living prophet in the church - ever.
I have tried to explain it to you...but you want to interject and apply your own...obviosuly biased against the Church, interpretation and dogma.
You've done nothing of the sort Jeff. Obfuscate, but you've put nothing from real, official sources forward in your defense. Why is that Jeff? Is it because even mormonism doesn't really know what they believe?
Then Apostle Ezra Taft Benson in the 1980 General council stated clearly that “The Prophet Does Not Have to Say ‘Thus Saith the Lord’ to Give Us Scripture.” Now I will assume that an Apostle (and later prophet) trumps YOUR experience and standing Jeff. Seems that Benson disagrees with your methodical means of scriptural acceptance. BTW, this speech is included in the newly updated Religion 333 Student Manual, Teachings of the Living Prophets (2011, pp. 22-27).
This same manual quotes Marion G. Romney:
“So I repeat again, what the presidency say as a presidency is what the Lord would say if he were here, and it is scripture. It should be studied, understood, and followed, even as the revelations in the Doctrine and Covenants and other scriptures”
I beg your pardon Jeff, but where is all this set piece methodology for accepting it as scripture or not? These OFFICIALLY sanctioned documents from the lds hq tell everyone a completely different story. Even the Apostle Romney EQUATES them to the other standard works
Another LDS authoritative source highlighted the topic of “The Scriptures” in its “What We Believe” column. It says,
“Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints accept the following as scripture: 1. The Bible… 2. The Book of Mormon… 3. The Doctrine and Covenants… 4. The Pearl of Great Price… 5. God continues to reveal truths to living prophets through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost. These truths are considered scripture (see D&C 68:4). They come to us primarily through general conference, held the first weekend in April and October, when members throughout the world hear addresses from our prophet and other Church leaders” (Ensign, January 2011, 14-15).
Again Jeff - your OFFICIAL sources tell us a vastly different story than the one you are laying out. Again, are you a higher authority than the GA that authorized these official expressions of mormon doctrine?
I have tried to explain it to you...but you want to interject and apply your own...obviosuly biased against the Church, interpretation and dogma.
Clearly you haven't, since I followed your challenge to look on the lds site and found contrary.
People can read and come to their own conclusions.
Indeed, authoritative sources from the mormon church lay out a whole different scripture development that what you claim it teaches. I'm sorry, but an unbiased reader would see your 'say so' answers in contrast to the official pronouncements in its own established scriptures, media mouthpieces and educational / doctrinal training material.
But, whereas you right now (and correct me on this if I am wrong, because it is your faith, heart, and belief I am talking about and I will not presume to tell you what is in your heart and soul) do not believe that the LDS Prophets, Apotsles, or restoration of Christ's Church, is not true, and in as much as your interpretation of the very things you read and quote are therefore skewed by that unbelief, allow me, once again as a long time, faithful member of the Church, in sincerelty and humility, to gently help you in that understanding.
The quotes you pulled from the Church web site are true. As members we do read and follow the words of the leaders of the Church as impressed upon our hearts "as though they were scripture,"...and there's an important distinction in that. As I have stated, we sustain the 12 as Apostles, Seers and revelators, the same with the 1st Presidency, and the President as a Prophet of God. (See Ephesians 4:11-14)) But you do not.
We have been around and around on this.
What we continue to have here is "a failure in communication," where you, as a non-believer, who, unless you have changed your heart and accepted the things you are talking about, are trying to tell me from that non-believing perspective, a very active and faithful member of 42 years what it is that I believe and what my faith teaches and what those quotes mean. That's a disjoiner from the get go...what we call in my native Texas a "dog that don't hunt,"...besides being pretty dog gone presumptive.
As for the truth as to how these LDS leaders words are either what you might called "cannonized" for the whole church and set before the world as such (that is, scripture ie. The Holy Bible, The Book of Mormon, The Pearle of Great Price, or the Doctrine and Covenants...which is a living document and can be and has been added to as time goes on), or how they are to be taken and followed by the faithful and believing church members individually (which again, according to my understanding is a group that you do not fall into...correct me if I am wrong).
As I said, to understand those two things:
All of that fits into and goes along with the very things you have quoted...but from the LDS perspective and not your pre-concieved one.
Redux I - This has now turned officially, circular.