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To: AnTiw1

Now, THAT’s the Mormon Church you claim to be so knowledgeable about, I think your unquestioning approval would make you a perfect slave for them...they gave you what you wanted to hear, why don’t you give them your kids.


I will only comment on the accusation above.

First, where did i say i was knowledgeable about the Mormon Church?

I just said i had been around the Mormons all of my life.

Second, where did i say i approved of the Mormon Church?

What i really said was that i think the Church is a fraud.

If you can not get the facts even close on these two little comments how in the world am i to take any thing else you say seriously?

Now i will admit that i did make a few comments just to stir up the emotions of the religious zealots but it was just dry humor.

Since you will most likely be the only one reading this i will say this again.

I believe the Mormon Church is as fraudulent as a 3 dollar bill.

That is what religion is as far as i am concerned, some one from one religion bashing another religion is pathetic because it is most likely one fraud bashing another.

Jesus did not come here to set up a religion, he came here to tell us the truth.

Here is what it is about

matt22:

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

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This is the first and great commandment.

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And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

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On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Luke 6:31
And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

John8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Matt 10:39
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Our salvation is not dependent on religion, in fact i really believe that religion is a detriment to ones salvation.

The whole point is that i am not arguing in favor of Mormonism i am just reminding people of this.

matt 7
5”Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Seems to me if we are going to expose religion we should expose all religion instead of just one sect of it.


That’s it. Liar, bigot, give me what you want, I don’t give a damn.

No, i would not call you any of those things, i just think you were reading between the lines of what i said and interpreting them wrong, as it is hard to tell if some one is serious or if they are just using humor when writing, at least i do not know the correct way to do it.

Maybe since i do not know the proper way to do it, i should not do it.

If we were to vote on the biggest fraud where religion is concerned, the Mormons may come up on top, but you can bet there would be a bunch of other so called Christian religions right under them, people loves religion more than they love God and that is exactly the way it was in the days of our lord.

Jesus set them free from religion, but by the time of the days of the holy roman empire the people were again enslaved by religion, only with a different name, they were once more catering to the whims of the religious leaders and also making them rich and giving honor to the church leaders instead of to the Father and the Son.

It seems so obvious to me that the Mormon Church is a fraud that i see no need to point it out to any one, they love religion and not God so they got it.

However other Christian religions are much less noticeable as a fraud, people will join them thinking they are the real deal, not realizing that it is a money thing, the more members the more money.


Mat 23:15
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you traverse sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.

I have a Step Nephew who was born into the Mormon Church, when he was about 25 years old he got the hell out of it and publicly denounced it, his step brother ( my nephew ) willingly joined it, he is still there because what he is interested in is religion.

Mormonism is so obviously a fraud why warn any one against something that they love to begin with which is religion.

Seems to me that we should be exposing frauds that are not so noticeable as frauds.

If some one shoots a man in the back any one can see that it is murder, plain and simple, that is the Mormon Church.

But if some one spends a lot of time picking a fight with some one who they know they can beat and supposedly kills them in a fair fight, then there is a doubt about if it was the same as murder or not, that of course would be some of these other Christian religions.

There is room for argument for or against, as far as i am concerned if they call them selves religious, i will stay away from them.

So you also have my permission to call me anything you like, and i do care but i will gladly take what ever comes to tell it the way i see it.


64 posted on 04/24/2012 6:02:15 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: ravenwolf; Colofornian; greyfoxx39; All

Ah...so you weren’t trying to subvert the discussion, you were trying to sabotage it...because you feel the subject has already been done, and all the information people need to know about Mormonism, they already know. In your universe the subject is closed, and you think tbis discussion should be closed as well.

How megalomaniacally Machiavellian of you.

Do you routinely meander through FR deciding which threads deserve to exist, and which should be silent? What exactly is the vital cause that you think everyone on this board should shut down their conversation and pay attention to? Is this simply the only way you get any play? Or, Heaven forfend, is there a candidate involved?

Your cutting-and-pasting of Scripture to elevate your intentions is very telling...given the depth from which you had to raise it.


65 posted on 04/24/2012 9:45:28 AM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: ravenwolf
"Mormonism is so obviously a fraud why warn any one against something..."

That may be true for those who were either raised in good Christian families and homes or who are very knowledgeable of the scriptures.

There are many like me, who were converted because of our prior or current ignorance of what Christianity really is.

I will also submit that posting the truthful information about mormonism on the web helps to inject some results in the web based searches that are now practically overrun with "official" church results.

An official campaign is underway to do just that. Post so much information and create as many web sites as is possible that are favorable to mormonism, that those who are searching for the truth, will find it practically impossible to do so.

66 posted on 04/24/2012 10:49:04 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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