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To: gghd
Well, I didn't see anything wrong with your statements...only incomplete...

For example...can you love somebody with the truth? (Yes)

Does love rejoice in the truth? (Yes, 1 Cor. 13:6) Does love withhold the truth, enabling people to stay in sin & be hell-bound? (Obviously not)

Was it loving for Jesus to compare the Pharisees to children of the devil? (John 8) (Yes)

Was it loving for Jesus to compliment the outward behavior of the Pharisees (sermon on the Mount) while also condemning their inward tombstone condition (Matt. 23)? (Yes)

Was it loving for the apostle Paul (& then also Apollos) to refute, dialogue, reason, debate with the Jews in the synagogues...(see three chapters in Acts... 17-19)? (Yes)

Are we supposed to "contend for the faith once delivered to the saints"? (Yes, Jude 3)

Are we warn and admonish people doctrinally? (Yes, Titus 1:9)

Are to pull down every stronghold & take it captive for Christ...including arguments? (Yes, 2 Cor. 10:3-5)

Do you see what I mean by "incomplete?"

30 posted on 04/20/2012 9:30:35 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

Christian Charity means we want everyone to make it to Heaven. There is only one way to Heaven & that is through Jesus Christ.
When Christians ‘preach Jesus,’ an effort should be made to preach the gospel so that people will listen & God can transform the human heart. = That’s all I am saying.

I have talked to Mormons. They will ‘shun’ someone that attacks their church. The typical Mormon has been raised to ‘turn-off’ their ears when attacked.
What is the purpose of your comments. Are you preaching to the Choir or trying to ‘change’ the hearts of Mormons? (It’s a rhetorical question.)

I didn’t post my comment to really >argue. But rather encourage Charity & hopefully the conversion of souls through Jesus Christ.

In Matthew25, Jesus describes who will get into Heaven. God gives the Grace to everyone.

Two other scripture passages:
The Parable of the Two Sons. Matthew21: 28-31, “What is your opinion? A man had two sons. He came to the first and said, ‘Son, go out and work in the vineyard today.’ He said in reply, ‘I will not,’ but afterwards he changed his mind and went. The man came to the other son and gave the same order. He said in reply, ‘Yes, sir.’ but did not go. >”Which of of the two did his father’s will?”

Matthew13: 24-30 in part, “The Kingdom of Heaven may be likened to a man who sowed good seed in his field...when the crop grew and bore fruit, the weeds appeared as well...The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?” He replied, ‘No, if you pull up the weeds you might uproot the wheat along with them. Let them grow together until harvest; then at harvest time I will say to the harvesters, ‘first collect the weeds and tie them in bundles for burning; but gather the wheat into my barn.”

I heard a Priest say in a Homily, God can change the weeds into wheat. God can transform all hearts. God decides who gets into Heaven. We creatures can NOT look into the human heart.

I am a Roman Catholic. +The Catholic Church is very concerned about True Christian Doctrine. The Catholic Church does NOT recognize Mormon ‘baptism’ because the Mormon Church does NOT teach the ‘Trinity’ as it should be understood by Christians.

Here is some Catholic teaching about salvation:
The Code of Canon Law: Rights and Obligations of Lay Persons. “They are bound to bring an evangelical spirit to bear on the order of temporal things and to give Christian witness in carrying out their secular pursuits.”

Dogmatic Constitution on the Church - Lumen Gentum:
“Nor is God himself far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God.
Those also can attain to everlasting salvation who through >no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, yet sincerely seek God and, moved by grace, strive by their deeds to do his will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does divine Providence deny the help necessary for salvation to those without blame on their part, have not arrived at at an explicit knowledge of God, but who strive to live a good life, thanks to his grace. Whatever goodness or truth is found among them is looked upon by the Church as preparation for the Gospel. She regards such qualities as given by Him who enlightened >all men so that they may finally have life.”

God decides who will get into Heaven & God can change ‘weeds into wheat.’ God decides >”fault.”

We are all children of Adam&Eve & God gives sufficient Grace to all people to make it to Heaven. Christian Charity makes it easier. Jesus Christ opens the Gates of Heaven & our job is to ‘preach salvation’ with Charity.

I did NOT mean to have you get so riled up. We ALL are on the earth together & we are obligated to try and help everyone reach Heaven.


32 posted on 04/20/2012 9:11:19 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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