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To: alancarp
"*Sigh* What we today call the Old Testament certainly did exist. That contained all of the prophecies of Christ, the foretelling of the Word coming to the Gentiles, and it is what Christ and the Apostles preached from. "

You must be kidding if you think the Apostles only preached out of the Old Testament. You make the teachings of Christ void by your argument because they were not yet put to writing.

So they can just forget the words of Christ himself:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

So now the Gospel is the Old Testament?

56 posted on 04/16/2012 8:22:14 AM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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To: GonzoII
You react as if the Bible is incompatible with itself. Yes, of course they used the Old Testament. See Acts 2, Peter's Pentacost sermon where he quotes Joel and the Psalms. As I already indicated, Christ cited OT Scripture as well as a means of proving that he was God's messenger, and indeed God's Christ (c.f. Luke 7:22 where Jesus cited OT prophecy to John's disciples as proof He was the Messiah)

But especially see the post-resurrection Jesus talking with the men on the road to Emmaus: Luke 24:13ff

"27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself. ... 44 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures..."

The Scriptures are given by God to men who wrote down the words given them by the Holy Spirit throughout our history. It all hangs together. It's all pointing to Christ. It's all about Him. And clearly (seeing Jesus' own actions above), it was necessary to be written, for why would Jesus ever reference it otherwise? He could have simply done a couple of miracles and been done with it.

So yes, the Gospel is the Old Testament, the New testament.... it is the scriptures, it is the Word of God. All. Together.

59 posted on 04/16/2012 8:39:00 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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