[BereanBrain]

Signs? Wonders? I wonder what our Lord thinks about people who need signs and wonders? What is the need for FAITH if you go by signs and wonders?

Ever read these verses?

Matthew 16:4

A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Jesus then left them and went away

2 Thessalonians 2:9

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,

[Jaded]

I’ll see your Matthew and raise you John. Have a Blessed week!

Jn 20:19-31
On the evening of that first day of the week,when the doors were locked, where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, “Peace be with you.” When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.”

Thomas, called Didymus, one of the Twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. So the other disciples said to him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said to them, “Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hands and put my finger into the nailmarks and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

Now a week later his disciples were again inside and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and stood in their midst and said, “Peace be with you.” Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and see my hands, and bring your hand and put it into my side, and do not be unbelieving, but believe.” Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Have you come to believe because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed.”

Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples that are not written in this book. But these are written that you may come to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that through this belief you may have life in his name.

[CrazyIvan]

Agreed. Especially signs and wonders that could be created with a can of starter fluid and a match.

[UCANSEE2]

So... we will know the end is near when there are a bunch of fakirs holding up “THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR” signs?

[papertyger]

Signs? Wonders? I wonder what our Lord thinks about people who need signs and wonders? What is the need for FAITH if you go by signs and wonders? Ever read these verses?

If your understanding of Matt 13:4 and 2 Thes 2:9 is catagorically legitimate, why did Christ come performing signs and wonders?