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To: stpio; BlackElk
Do you see...how can the messages from Heaven help us if we have to wait for their approval?

That kind of thinking sort of does away with the need for approval altogether. You can believe in an unapproved message without approval of the local bishop (why else would you seek approval unless you believed it?), but it ought not be propagated until there is approval. Certainly, they should not be labeled visions or apparitions without a serious qualifier, such as "purported" or "claimed".

In many cases the local bishop can act and act relatively quickly. Purported apparitions at Necedah (Lacrosse diocese?), Bayside (Brooklyn diocese) and Medjugorje (Mostar diocese) were disapproved in short order, yet the promotion continued. Others, such as Cuapa, Nicaragua and Akita, Japan were approved in a reasonable amount of time.

We are also to reject that purported private revelation which goes against church teaching. A claim that a validly elected pope (as opposed to an anti-pope from a false election) could be the Man of Sin does go against the promise Our Lord gave to St. Peter.

LaSalette, Fatima and Akita have plenty of dire messages of warning, and follow Church teaching. In any event, we need NONE of this private revelation for salvation. Love God; Love your neighbor; obey God's laws. Be baptized. Confess your sins. Receive Our Lord worthily. These are what we need.
41 posted on 04/13/2012 6:08:11 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“That kind of thinking sort of does away with the need for approval altogether. You can believe in an unapproved message without approval of the local bishop (why else would you seek approval unless you believed it?), but it ought not be propagated until there is approval. Certainly, they should not be labeled visions or apparitions without a serious qualifier, such as “purported” or “claimed”.

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Hi Doctor,

Not true, if you are saying until a private revelation gains approval, we are not allowed to believe a private revelation.

Catholics who are interested in the prophetic, know which has “approval” and which is yet to be “approved” and that is most of the current messages from Heaven. You can’t keep what Heaven is saying away from people until “approval” comes.

Heaven can’t wait that long. The smoke of Satan has
infiltrated the Vatican per Pope Paul VI. This fact and pride, “some” of the local bishops and Vatican hierarchy are biased. Yes. The messages from Heaven say it.

We need Heaven’s help now. You mentioned the recent “approved” Wisconsin apparition. Is it 10 years for approval, what is the time period that it took to be approved?

And speak of Medjugorje. The Vatican took over it’s investigation so it has not been decided yet. Look at the fruit, the miracles of Medjugorje.


48 posted on 04/13/2012 6:56:10 PM PDT by stpio
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