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To: DaveMSmith

Read Luke. He taught and healed all — never turning anyone away. God cannot hate if He loves all.


May I ask a question. Is there a time when God removes his grace and love? (death, at that point it is over, no second chances) What is the consequences for many when his grace is removed? God may not hate but he will apply perfect/hard justice.

Define love. It is NOT the emotional and “you poor thing” our world teaches. If you love someone you will speak the hard truth to them and God speaks it to us.

He taught and healed all? He came to divide, not to bring peace. Truth was/is offered to all, most decline it. Never turning anyone away? If they didn’t want to hear the truth, he did not chase them, he was always testing and knowing hearts.

I do not mean to offend you, I may have taken things out of context, not knowing your heart. Yes God is graceful and loves us but he is also a just God, that has not gone away and we need to speak that truth as well.


53 posted on 04/14/2012 11:04:15 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
The Lord loves all and creates all for heaven. We choose hell by our own lusts and desires -- our loves define us. The Lord provides for those who choose this path -- adulterers are gathered together, etc. It's a choice -- no one is cast down... they follow their loves.

My message is one of repentance and self examination. The Lord offers this to all while in this world. I moved to a Christian community after I retired and look up to my neighbors by and large. I've given Bibles out to those unfamiliar with it. I don't look to condemn as people condemn themselves.

My particular branch of my faith is very specific about sodomy, divorce and adultery. In a recent sermon published in New Church Life, they spoke to homosexuality head on with 'hard truth'. I agreed with everything it said. As for pastors in the liberal branch ministering to homosexuals, fine. They have a place and path to find the truth.

54 posted on 04/15/2012 12:04:17 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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