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To: NYer
The Vatican.
I always wondered WHY the center of the Roman Catholic Church was called that. I found out why.
Peter was martyred on "Vatican Hill." That was the name of the exact "hill" where Peter was martyred.

I always wondered why Peter left Israel and went to Rome. I found out why. Paul had gone to Rome...the center of the Gentile community at the time, the POWER of the world.
He wasn't doing very well in evangelizeing as he had never known or met Jesus, aside from his amazing vision. The Romans weren't buying Paul's evangelization so he got Peter to join him there. That obviously did the trick.
The Romans were going to crucify him as they did Jesus and Peter asked to crucified upside down as to be crucified JUST like Jesus was not acceptable for him. He thought that he didn't deserve the honor of dying JUST like Jesus.
THIS kind of history is part of the Apostolic Tradition that sola scripture Protestants decline.

Scott Hahn is a WONderful speaker. He has been inspirational to ME, a cradle Catholic. How blessed we Catholics are to have him in the fold.

16 posted on 04/05/2012 7:26:26 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

St. Peter could be crucified because he was not a Roman citizen. St. Paul was a citizen, so he was beheaded.

When we’re discussing the Bible in my prayer group or in Sunday School class, I’ll often begin a statement with “Scott Hahn suggests ...,” or “According to Scott Hahn ...”.


19 posted on 04/05/2012 7:43:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Read "Radical Son" by David Horowitz to understand the Left.)
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To: cloudmountain
THIS kind of history is part of the Apostolic Tradition that sola scripture Protestants decline.

1Co 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

And we decline/reject your so called Tradition because the scriptures alone contradict it so often...Scripture says Paul saw Jesus...

So Paul was failing as an evangelist and Peter had to rescue him??? Where is a face palm picture when I need one???

So when did this 'tradition' start??? And who passed it on to your religion??? Which one of the earliest church fathers wrote about it???

30 posted on 04/05/2012 12:16:35 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: cloudmountain; Iscool
Post 16. Incredible. "The Romans weren't buying Paul's evalgelization so he got Peter to join him there. That obviously did the trick."

"Hey, Peter, it's Paul. We're getting the band back together...meet me in Rome.... We'll petros this city...".

Yes, it all makes sense now.

42 posted on 04/05/2012 1:54:12 PM PDT by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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