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Dangerous Exit from Comfort Zone: Passover Offering on Temple Mount
Manhigut Yehudit--The Jewish Leadership Movement ^ | 3/29/'12 | Moshe Feiglin

Posted on 03/30/2012 11:58:23 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them: 'Draw out, and take lambs according to your families, and kill the Passover lamb. And you shall observe this matter for an ordinance for you and your sons for ever.
(Exodus 12)

Soon, with G-d's help, we will establish Jewish leadership for Israel. Please be forewarned that when that happens, our familiar, comfortable Pesach holiday will be radically changed. We will have to forget about the Pesach seder with the extended family at the home of the family balabusta. Instead, we will be face to face with the Korban Pesach (Passover offering) at the Temple Mount.

For those who have forgotten, the Korban Pesach is a positive commandment, equal in its importance to the mitzvah of brit milah (circumcision). The mitzvah of circumcision is a personal covenant between a Jew and his Father in heaven. The Pesach offering is the national covenant between the Jewish Nation and its Father in heaven. These two commandments forged the Jewish People as the unique nation of the Creator – both as individuals and as a collective.

Today, a Jewish policeman stands at the entrance to the Temple Mount and explains to the Jews that they are prohibited from praying there. A request to bring a sacrificial lamb is out of the question. When we will finally establish Jewish leadership for Israel, though, the same policeman will stand at the entrance to the Temple Mount and cheerfully explain what you need to know, ensuring that you are well-versed in the Jewish laws that must be observed during your momentous visit.

In truth, it is not the policeman who blocks our entrance to the Temple Mount. It is the observant Jews whose Torah and faith are still in exile. They/we feel more comfortable when our covenant with G-d remains exclusively in the realm of the individual. It's great to be religious in your home and "Israeli" in public. The people subscribed to this mode of living will go to great lengths to avoid being a complete Jew in the complete Land of Israel – both in private and in public. In other words, at some level, all of us have a little policeman in our hearts, blocking the entrance to the Temple Mount. That is why we have a full-sized, flesh and blood policeman at its gates.

When we establish Jewish leadership for Israel, all of this will be distant memory. The prime minister and his cabinet will ascend to the Temple Mount with their sacrificial lambs. The entire national mentality will change, and there will be no more lame excuses for not bringing the Pesach offering.

Instead of sitting in the comfort of our living rooms and chewing on matzah that symbolizes the Pesach offering, we will joyously sit in the streets and alleys surrounding the Temple Mount, eating our roasted sacrificial lamb.

The international uproar will be deafening. How will we be able to conduct "peace" negotiations when the entire Jewish Nation is at the Temple Mount with their Pesach offerings? And who will protect us from Iran? And what will Obama do? And how will Russia react? And what about the European Union? What will we explain?

'And you shall say: It is the sacrifice of G-d's Passover, for He passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when He smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses.'

The Temple Institute is sponsoring registration for the Pesach offering for this year. Click here (Hebrew) to register for your portion in this mitzvah.

Happy Festival of Freedom,

Moshe Feiglin

Illustration: The Temple Institute


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Judaism; Worship
KEYWORDS: pesach; sacrifice; temple
I meant to post this yesterday but never got around to it. I apologize for my tardiness.

Please note that the Temple Institute which is linked in the article is very controversial and most Torah authorities reject that organization and its positions. Also the idea of a Qorban Pesach prior to Mashiach HaMelekh may be controversial as well since Mashiach will rebuild the Temple (though the Qorban Pesach, as I understand it, requires only an altar on the Temple Mount and should one be built it would become incumbent on all Jews to offer one there).

I'm not sure about the Qorban being offered by the leaders of a Western-style, secularly influenced government (a prime minister and his cabinet) at the time of the offering either. It seems to me that if `Am Yisra'el can offer the Qorban Pesach it should have a fully Torah government, though again, all that is lacking for this obligation to become fully binding is an altar on the Temple Mount (rather than requiring a fully rebuilt Temple or a reconstituted Sanhedrion, which Mashiach will re-establish).

Anyone out there who can clarify these issues?

1 posted on 03/30/2012 11:58:27 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Alouette; hlmencken3; rmlew; Nachum; dervish; Yehuda; Ancesthntr; TorahTrueJew; Yomin Postelnik; ...

Ping to my Theocratic Judaism list.


2 posted on 03/30/2012 11:59:46 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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Ping to my old Noachide list, with apologies to the people who are on both.


3 posted on 03/30/2012 12:01:27 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Thanks, ZC. Very interesting.

Hope You and Yours are well.

Gut Shabbes.


4 posted on 03/30/2012 12:18:03 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Zionist Conspirator
When we establish Jewish leadership for Israel, all of this will be distant memory. The prime minister and his cabinet will ascend to the Temple Mount with their sacrificial lambs. The entire national mentality will change...

It might be 'very controversial - it's also quite beautiful. Thanks for the ping.

5 posted on 03/30/2012 12:38:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: onedoug

Thanks doug. So far this year’s been more peaceful than last, but it could hardly be otherwise.


6 posted on 03/30/2012 12:41:57 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: GOPJ
It might be 'very controversial - it's also quite beautiful. Thanks for the ping.

You're very welcome.

Please don't misunderstand the controversy. It's not about whether or not the full Temple service will ever be restored; it most certainly will be, along with the fully Torah Theocratic polity ordained by G-d.

The Temple Institute is controversial because 1)it advocates taking steps to rebuild the Temple prior to Mashiach, 2)it has gone ahead and made Temple implements (forbidden until the Temple is ready) under the pretext of creating Temple "artifacts" for display, and 3)they are part of a larger movement which is indeed implicated in heretical things, such as radical ecumenicism. The new "sanhedrion" and its "Noachide" organization are also, as I understand it, heretical, and I have been advised to steer clear of them.

But Moshe's ruminations are always worth reading and, as I said, the Qorban Pesach becomes fully obligatory, not on the coming of Mashiach or the rebuilding of the Temple, but merely upon the erecting of a kosher altar on the Temple Mount. At least, that is what I understand.

I hope I'm not giving you any misinformation here. That's not my intention. But I am absolutely allergic to any organization or movement even remotely implicated in the modern syncretistic/indifferentist/"all religions are equally valid" nonsense.

7 posted on 03/30/2012 12:53:27 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Why do you think that Mashiach will rebuild the Temple? I thought there were people in Israel, such as the Temple Mount Faithful, getting ready to rebuild BEFORE Mashiach comes.

I am an Evangelical Christian, fascinated with everything that is Jewish, and am asking this question honestly, seeking an answer.

8 posted on 03/30/2012 12:59:07 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus
Why do you think that Mashiach will rebuild the Temple? I thought there were people in Israel, such as the Temple Mount Faithful, getting ready to rebuild BEFORE Mashiach comes.

Yes, and that is controversial. The Torah consensus is that only Mashiach HaMelekh (yaggi`a veyavo' beqarov beyameynu) is authorized to rebuild the Holy Temple, reinstitute the `Avodat HaQodesh (holy Temple Service), and reconstitute the Beit Din HaGadol (Great Sanhedrion).

However, at the same time, RaMBa"M says Mashiach will be recognized by doing all these things, implying someone has to do them before he can be recognized as Mashiach. It's a knotty problem.

I am an Evangelical Christian, fascinated with everything that is Jewish, and am asking this question honestly, seeking an answer.

You should ask some of the people on my ping list, who know much more than I do about this stuff.

9 posted on 03/30/2012 1:05:53 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

placemark..


10 posted on 03/30/2012 1:19:35 PM PDT by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It is long past time when observant Jews should be doing this. It matters not what the world has to say about it.

Every year, Jews fast on Tisha B’Av to commemorate the destruction of the original Temple. Part of that ritual is to look forward to a time when the Temple will be restored. Well, fellas, you now have it within your power to do just that, if you only had the faith to carry though.

The world will change in many ways the instant that the Jews start to build a new Temple. Many, many peoples, including some Jews, will seek to move heaven and earth to obstruct such efforts. The followers of the Religion of Peace (tm) will go into hyperdriven Apoplexy.


11 posted on 03/30/2012 2:23:57 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
The world will change in many ways the instant that the Jews start to build a new Temple. Many, many peoples, including some Jews, will seek to move heaven and earth to obstruct such efforts. The followers of the Religion of Peace (tm) will go into hyperdriven Apoplexy.

Where will the new Temple be built?
Right now the Temple Mount has another edifice on it. This other edifice can be seen most clearly from throughout much of Jerusalem...but NOT seen from the Western Wailing Wall itself.

12 posted on 03/30/2012 7:46:27 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Where, exactly, should the Temple be built. That is a key question. It is clear by many passages that the original temple of Solomon had much water available to it. The late Dr. Earnest Martin proposed that the temple must have been served by a source of ‘living’ (flowing) water. This would have been impossible had it been located where most people said it was, on the place presently occupied by the Dome of the Rock (Mosque of Omar).

Martin’s theory points to the Temple being located slightly down the hill and to the south along the ridge line.

See for example: Running Water at the Temple of Zion
By George Wesley Buchanan

http://www.askelm.com/temple/t050115.htm


13 posted on 03/30/2012 8:54:18 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: All

Bump for Pesach.


14 posted on 03/21/2013 1:55:15 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: theBuckwheat; cloudmountain
Martin’s theory points to the Temple being located slightly down the hill and to the south along the ridge line.

I was rather enamored of askelm's theory, but it seems that David's Palace now stands in the way.

15 posted on 03/21/2013 2:17:05 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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