You claimed “We have literal physical evidence left here on God’s green earth of a long history.”
Or do we simply have a ‘consensus paradigm’ problem from only the last 2 centuries where many have accepted long ages as fact when there are so many natural clocks [101] indicating magnitudes less time has elapsed since creation than the favored 2 [radio-isotopes, & starlight] of modern day geology and evolution
~ which BTW caused many otherwise ‘orthodox’ believers to begin subscribing to either some mysterious un-defined gap theory in Gen 1:2 and/or theistic long ages combination of evolution / creation.
Sorry no sale here, even if you could explain away these young-ages natural clocks:
101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth
Here’s another very simple question for you since you take most of the Bible at face value. When God referred Job to behemoth in Job 40 or 41 ‘with a tail like a cedar’ was God asking Job about an animal that Job had no knowledge of or was it because at some point after the fall mankind [and Job] shared the Earth with dinosaurs?
Afterall the fall is very foundational to the Bible stories since it was only after that first sin that death and destruction entered into God’s perfectly created world [both Earth and Universe ~ both also showing signs of winding down not up ~ devolution not evoolution].
So many ways to respond. First Peter instructs us as to how the Heavenly Father counts time after Peter states there are three different heaven/earth ages. (That is what the word 'world' as Peter describes means.) Peter's WORDS alone says this earth is at least a few thousand years older than 6,000.
IIPeter 3 the whole chapter begins with the assertion that even the holy prophets were aware of the distinction of ages. And Peter repeatedly says be not ignorant... of...
Moses does not elaborate on the so called span of time from Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, but other prophets do by the events that occurred, not by periods of time. But Moses does give a hint about time before this flesh age in Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, AND the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
God said after day 3, day 4 day 5, day 6 what He made was good. And before the Adam was formed we are told there was a symbolic tree of knowledge of good and evil. The flesh man Adam did indeed 'sin' or fall, but he was not the first to fall, the devil rebelled and drew a third of the sons of God to his side and that heaven/earth world/age ended. Which is why Christ told Nicodemus to 'see' the kingdom of God the soul/spirit must be born of woman. The devil has already been judge and is awaiting his death sentence. (Along with a numbered of his chief followers which refused to be born of woman in this flesh age.)
Only Genesis 1:2 indicates the results of a reaction between good and evil. And through each of the days of creation up to the fifth describes the level of destruction that occurred when Lucifer rebelled. Isaiah 14:12- and Ezekiel 28:12- specifically describe the first rebel. Genesis 6 describes the 'fallen' angels taking the daughters of Adam which resulted in Noah's flood.
Moses does not say one word about the creation/formation of the 'soul/spirit', but does say the Adam was not alive until the breath of life which means soul was breathed into the Adam's nostrils.
~ which BTW caused many otherwise ‘orthodox’ believers to begin subscribing to either some mysterious un-defined gap theory in Gen 1:2 and/or theistic long ages combination of evolution / creation. Sorry no sale here, even if you could explain away these young-ages natural clocks: 101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth
I have nothing to sell. I am comfortable with the Writings of those elected to lay out God's plan and purpose. Genesis 1:2 says there was a flood, and Peter says there was a flood in that world (age) that was. Neither scripture is addressing Noah's flood. I do not know who came up with the young earth claim but even with the amount of time we can calculate this earth is thousands of years older than 6,000. Day one alone would be according to Peter a thousand years. AND we are told that at the end of 7 days Genesis 2:4 THERE WERE GENERATIONS, and that was before the formation of Adam and then later Eve.
Here’s another very simple question for you since you take most of the Bible at face value. When God referred Job to behemoth in Job 40 or 41 ‘with a tail like a cedar’ was God asking Job about an animal that Job had no knowledge of or was it because at some point after the fall mankind [and Job] shared the Earth with dinosaurs? Afterall the fall is very foundational to the Bible stories since it was only after that first sin that death and destruction entered into God’s perfectly created world [both Earth and Universe ~ both also showing signs of winding down not up ~ devolution not evoolution].
Evolution is pure fantasy, reason, because of all the intervention God Himself did to protect the birth line to Christ. This would not happen if we got here through the random selective process.
As far as Job is concerned, the devil, challenged the Heavenly Father that he could get Job to curse the LORD. Then after 30 + chapters of Job philosophizing with some friends, in chapter 38 God answered Job 2 "Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou Me.
The best I can answer your question about what the LORD asked of Job would be Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it my be said, 'See, this is new?' it hath been already of OLD time, which was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to dome with those that shall come after.
Were all the souls/spirits created in Genesis 1:1????