[stfassisi]

He never was "troubled" in His soul

Now you're over compensating the other way as if Jesus had no emotions on human activity just because hey know the outcome.

Perhaps you don't remember this Scriptures...

"When Jesus had said these things, he was troubled in spirit; and he testified, and said: Amen, amen I say to you, one of you shall betray me"- John 13:21

And as far as free will goes, would the thought of longing of the flesh enter into His mind and He would "freely" choose to be led by the Spirit? I would stipulate that those who believe in "free will" are really the ones who are committing the heresy of Theodore of Mopsuestia.

Harley, I have always liked you ,but sometimes you don't make any sense.

[MarkBsnr]

Very good debate, gentlemen. I apologize inasmuch as I have been pressed overly much in terms of time and have not had the werewithal to give this the attention and the consideration that it deserves.

[HarleyD]

Harley, I have always liked you ,but sometimes you don't make any sense.

Now you're sounding like my wife. ;O)

I think we both would agree that our Lord's will was not corrupted. Please note what the Lord stated:

Luk 22:42 saying, "Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done."

What does the above passage tell us? Just the following:

1) Our Lord Jesus' will was perfect (unlike ours).

2) The Father's will and our Lord Jesus' will (in His humanity) were different.

3) Christ did not follow his perfect will but instead relied upon doing the Father's will.

Paul states this in Philippians 2:

Phl 2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

So, no, Theodore of Mopsuestia was wrong. Our Lord had a will and that will was perfect and flawless. But everyone who believe in free will are equally as wrong and the text of Luke shows it to be the case. The Lord who had a perfect will, never exercised His will. He was ever obedient to the will of the Father unlike Adam who was not obedient to the will of the Father.

To think we can "will" ourselves to do the Father's will is not much different than to think the heresy of Theodore of Mopsuestia that Christ's will was no different than our wills. It's just a reversed view. Both are wrong and heretical.