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To: D-fendr

Certainly: If you follow an organization (error #1), an organization which does not comport with the Scriptures it claims to have delivered (error #2), and that organization substitutes a message which calls you back to the Law (error #3 - #1,679 approx.), you have followed an empty shell. We shall see when this is all over if that was merely an exercise in futility or a fatal error.


155 posted on 03/21/2012 3:40:42 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Thanks for your reply. However, before we compare authority we would first have to recognize and identify yours, since it is not scripture alone.

My main point was:

“… if you’re basing you theology/doctrine on the doctrine of scripture alone, you’re bolloxed at the start, since scripture alone negates itself.”

The corollary being that sola scriptura is a tradition.

And, therefore, you are following that tradition, whether it be from an organization, person or yourself.

You could either identify where you get or derive your authority or refute the main point.


157 posted on 03/21/2012 3:56:10 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dutchboy88; Natural Law
If you follow an organization (error #1), an organization which does not comport with the Scriptures it claims to have delivered (error #2), and that organization substitutes a message which calls you back to the Law (error #3 - #1,679 approx.), you have followed an empty shell.

Very good. Let us follow that and see where it goes.

If you follow the organization formed by God, who promised to stay with them via the Holy Spirit until He returns, then you have a problem with God, not the organization. If you follow only yourself, then how can the created individual claim superiority over what God has commanded? Error #1.

If the belief of divergence from Scripture is simply a matter of selective Scripture and personal interpretation (proscribed by the same Scriptures you use as authority), then we arrive at error #2.

When the Lord God Almighty in the Person of Jesus Christ says that the Law is not abolished, and one of the created says it is, we arrive at error #3.

In short, it comes down to whether one's selective reading and interpretation of Scripture is superior to the Church created by Jesus Christ or not.

171 posted on 03/21/2012 5:49:02 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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