[LukeL]

I like how you quote Matthew 6, but omit "do not use vain repititions as the heathen do" The Our Father Prayer is not a prayer that we have to say. Christ said when you pray, pray like this... Christ meant that in prayer we are to give glory to God, seek God's will, ask for our daily needs, and seek forgivness.

If you repeate a Psalm over and over thinking God will like you better because you said it 50 times instead of once, then yes that is a vain repitition.

[Heart-Rest]

I like how you quote Matthew 6, but omit "do not use vain repititions as the heathen do" The Our Father Prayer is not a prayer that we have to say. Christ said when you pray, pray like this... Christ meant that in prayer we are to give glory to God, seek God's will, ask for our daily needs, and seek forgivness.

If you repeate a Psalm over and over thinking God will like you better because you said it 50 times instead of once, then yes that is a vain repitition.

You concept of prayer bears no resemblence whatsoever to mine. I do not pray to make God like me better.

I also never said you have to say the "Our Father". However, do you think it is wrong to say it?

I do not use vain repetition in my prayers either, and I would not presume to claim that I can tell what is in the mind or heart of anyone else who is praying. I hope that you wouldn't either.