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[roamer_1:] What do you suppose that ‘form or fashion’ to be? Can you define it?

The bible is not clear on it. Therefore we should not be dogmatic about it.

Bravo! That is a fairly brave position to take, and I largely agree with it. However, the matter-of-fact way that it is discussed in the scriptures leads me to believe that the initial audience the scriptures were written for knew exactly what the term implied - It bothers me that something so perfectly understood then has been nearly erased in our thought - Again, I come from the position that the Gifts were evident then (thus delivered), and therefore should be evident now. What bugs me about that is the absence of powerful gifts that were matter-of-fact and powerful in that day.

On a previous thread there was a question: "Why aren't these charismatics hanging around in hospitals in droves healing people?" The broader concept which went unnoticed in that debate is "Why aren't CHRISTIANS hanging around in hospitals in droves healing people?"

Something important has been lost - Can you see that?

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Bravo! That is a fairly brave position to take, and I largely agree with it. However, the matter-of-fact way that it is discussed in the scriptures leads me to believe that the initial audience the scriptures were written for knew exactly what the term implied - It bothers me that something so perfectly understood then has been nearly erased in our thought - Again, I come from the position that the Gifts were evident then (thus delivered), and therefore should be evident now. What bugs me about that is the absence of powerful gifts that were matter-of-fact and powerful in that day.

On a previous thread there was a question: "Why aren't these charismatics hanging around in hospitals in droves healing people?" The broader concept which went unnoticed in that debate is "Why aren't CHRISTIANS hanging around in hospitals in droves healing people?"

Something important has been lost - Can you see that?

. PRAISE GOD. It is soooo refreshing to read on such threads someone who is Biblically grounded; spiritually discerning; perceptive, observant, rational; with both feet on the ground.

I need to sit down and recover from the shock. Oh, I am sitting down. LOL.