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To: Raider Sam; JustSayNoToNannies; jmc813
Guys guys guys, I get it, I have heard if from you libertarians and others both on the extreme right and the left for years.

But it doesn't matter how eloquently you state the case, how many times you speak of rights and the Constitutions and freedom and such, we are not arguing about guns or property rights or freedom of religion, we are arguing about making it easier to SMOKE POT!

Do you really think that the hard core conservative base, us God guns and guts folks among others, are really buying this? If it was as a conservative cause as you guys want to make it out to be it would have been on the platform as far back as Reagan's days.

And yet...

However you may get your shot. Since society seems to give less and less of a damn about what is right and moral and good you may well gain enough allies across the way and among those who just don't care and want their hit, pot may be right next to the smokes at the quick mart. I am sure Pixie stick tubes of crack and M&M bags of LSD will soon follow. Hey it is all about freedom, right?

Lord bless me enough to miss such days if they come to pass.

269 posted on 03/09/2012 1:53:25 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
we are arguing about making it easier to SMOKE POT

Therein lies the rub. "We" aren't all arguing about making it easier to smoke pot. Some of us are just arguing that the authority to make that decision was never granted to the federal government.

Every state has it's own laws about marijuana, and if every federal law about it were taken off the books tomorrow all the state laws would still be in place.

ENDING THE FEDERAL DRUG WAR WILL NOT LEGALIZE MARIJUANA.

The liberals have to be absolutely loving seeing these kinds of debates go on because it means they've sucessfully taken the idea of a republic, and what it means to have one out of the public consciousness.

270 posted on 03/09/2012 2:22:39 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ejonesie22
Do you really think that the hard core conservative base, us God guns and guts folks among others, are really buying this?

Only the ones whose minds are open to facts and logic.

271 posted on 03/09/2012 2:49:58 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: ejonesie22
But it doesn't matter how eloquently you state the case, how many times you speak of rights and the Constitutions and freedom and such, we are not arguing about guns or property rights or freedom of religion, we are arguing about making it easier to SMOKE POT!

To my mind, we're talking about whether Joe Blow down the street has the right to put whatever substance he wants in his body, or whether the government has acquired the power to make that determination. If it is the government's (or society's for that matter), then as a principle they also have the power to tell you that you can't eat more than one cheeseburger a month or that you have to eat three servings of vegetables each day. They have the power to tell you what you can and can't do with your money (the product of your labor). They can require you to use some of your money to buy health insurance or pay union dues for that matter.

It is the principle of whether it is the government's responsibility to control how we live our lives or if we have self determination (limited of course by the extent to which our actions might infringe on somebody else's rights).

It is the government's responsibility to protect our rights. Not to take them away.

276 posted on 03/09/2012 7:26:08 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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