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To: Talisker
I was rolling with you until you turned it into an anti-gay essay.

Gays aren’t the problem.

I thought I specifically said it was heterosexuals who were pushing "gay rights." Perhaps you didn't read it very carefully.

At any rate, legalizing "gay marriage" definitely puts a country in danger of the wrath of G-d. As for male homosexuality being a capital offense, that's what it is. I was referring to Halakhah, not secular law, and that can't be changed.

23 posted on 03/06/2012 5:46:15 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It’s not individual gays that are the problem it’s the huge, wealthy, super-rich I should say, homosexual organizations, with all their lobbying power at city, state and national levels, who are lobbying and pressuring as we speak in all fifty states, with their big legal departments, their activists worming their way into every church and synagogue.

they are funded by taxpayers, by foundations and big corporations.

They are very powerful. They sued the Boy Scouts all the way to the Supreme Court, they never stop. They serve only the interests of gays and lesbians and to hell with the country. to hell with everybody else. Women and children last.


29 posted on 03/06/2012 6:00:38 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I thought I specifically said it was heterosexuals who were pushing "gay rights." Perhaps you didn't read it very carefully.

At any rate, legalizing "gay marriage" definitely puts a country in danger of the wrath of G-d. As for male homosexuality being a capital offense, that's what it is. I was referring to Halakhah, not secular law, and that can't be changed.

I read it very thoroughly, and I tried to use it to point out the mechanisms that we're all actually up against. Your examples are mine as well - you worry about "gay marriage," while I point out that marriage is religio/spiritual, and not a governmental grant. Should Jewish marraiges be subject to the approval of the State for their legitimacy? And as for executing gays, would you push for the replacement of the Constitution with Halakhah?

America is under attack, and that attack is of a very specific kind - the replacement of common law with administrative law, and the use of volatile issues in culture and religion as dividing cover stories for this unadmitted transfer of legal venue. Getting irritated with me for pointing it out doesn't change anything.

You ended your essay with: "I do know that we need to cry out to Heaven for a rescue . . . and having done that, stand up and fight back. If we do not . . . though HaShem's ultimate World Purpose cannot be defeated, we will be . . . and we will deserve to be."

Well what if God's answer doesn't require a Biblical Event? What if it just require the courage to look at what is actually being done, and how it's being done? Do firefighters ruminate on the morality of various bahaviors that can cause fires, or do they study how fires actually work, and how they can be stopped and prevented no matter what anyone believes?

30 posted on 03/06/2012 6:03:13 PM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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