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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Alrighty, then what about making them, or bowing down to them? As I said, the 2nd Commandment doesn’t leave any “wiggle room”. You can try to interpret your way out of it all you want, but the words are plain as day for anyone to read. Certainly the Jews knew full well what the words meant, for you won’t find a single “monument” or “icon” to Moses, Elijah, Jacob, or David in the archaeological record of ancient Israel. Honest modern Jews will attest to this as well, as one already has on this very thread.


101 posted on 03/01/2012 8:16:59 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

-——Alrighty, then what about making them, or bowing down to them?———

You mean like Protestant bed-worshippers? But Protestants aren’t worshipping beds, are they? They’re PRAYING, just like other Protestants who “bow down” before paintings of Jesus, or framed Scripture quotations. God’s not opposed to prayer, nor any prayer aid. Why would He be?

——As I said, the 2nd Commandment doesn’t leave any “wiggle room”-——

Then get your own house in order, and take up your pharisaical crusade against Christian bookstores.


The point of the Second Commandment, which is obvious to Catholics, is not to worship false idols. The golden calf would be a the prime OT example. But idols can take many forms. Today, worldly success and hedonism would be the most common. Aside from some New Agers and Wiccans, there aren’t too many people ascribing magical properties to physical objects.


If you want to engage in serious dialogue with Catholics, study the Catholic position. If you want to argue with straw men, you’ll only end up talking to yourself.
The Veneration of Images
Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07664a.htm


105 posted on 03/02/2012 4:52:01 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Boogieman

-——Alrighty, then what about making them, or bowing down to them?———

You mean like Protestant bed-worshippers? But Protestants aren’t worshipping beds, are they? They’re PRAYING, just like other Protestants who “bow down” before paintings of Jesus, or framed Scripture quotations. God’s not opposed to prayer, nor any prayer aid. Why would He be?

——As I said, the 2nd Commandment doesn’t leave any “wiggle room”-——

Then get your own house in order, and take up your pharisaical crusade against Christian bookstores.


The point of the Second Commandment, which is obvious to Catholics, is not to worship false idols. The golden calf would be a the prime OT example. But idols can take many forms. Today, worldly success and hedonism would be the most common. Aside from some New Agers and Wiccans, there aren’t too many people ascribing magical properties to physical objects.


If you want to engage in serious dialogue with Catholics, study the Catholic position. If you want to argue with straw men, you’ll only end up talking to yourself.
The Veneration of Images
Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07664a.htm


106 posted on 03/02/2012 4:53:06 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Boogieman

-——Alrighty, then what about making them, or bowing down to them?———

You mean like Protestant bed-worshippers? But Protestants aren’t worshipping beds, are they? They’re PRAYING, just like other Protestants who “bow down” before paintings of Jesus, or framed Scripture quotations. God’s not opposed to prayer, nor any prayer aid. Why would He be?

——As I said, the 2nd Commandment doesn’t leave any “wiggle room”-——

Then get your own house in order, and take up your pharisaical crusade against Christian bookstores.


The point of the Second Commandment, which is obvious to Catholics, is not to worship false idols. The golden calf would be the prime OT example. But idols can take many forms. Today, worldly success and hedonism would be the most common. Aside from some New Agers and Wiccans, there aren’t too many people ascribing magical properties to physical objects.


If you want to engage in serious dialogue with Catholics, study the Catholic position. If you want to argue with straw men, you’ll only end up talking to yourself.
The Veneration of Images
Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07664a.htm


107 posted on 03/02/2012 5:15:28 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Boogieman

-——Alrighty, then what about making them, or bowing down to them?———

You mean like Protestant bed-worshippers? But Protestants aren’t worshipping beds, are they? They’re PRAYING, just like other Protestants who “bow down” before paintings of Jesus, or framed Scripture quotations. God’s not opposed to prayer, nor any prayer aid. Why would He be?

——As I said, the 2nd Commandment doesn’t leave any “wiggle room”-——

Then get your own house in order, and take up your pharisaical crusade against Christian bookstores.


The point of the Second Commandment, which is obvious to Catholics, is not to worship false idols. The golden calf would be the prime OT example. But idols can take many forms. Today, worldly success and hedonism would be the most common. Aside from some New Agers and Wiccans, there aren’t too many people ascribing magical properties to physical objects.


If you want to engage in serious dialogue with Catholics, study the Catholic position. If you want to argue with straw men, you’ll only end up talking to yourself.
The Veneration of Images
Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07664a.htm


108 posted on 03/02/2012 5:16:29 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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