Essays for Lent: Creationism or Evolution?

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[Salvation]

Ten pages of "Creation" entries in the Catechism of the Catholic Church

[JimRed]

The two are not mutually exclusive. God created it, I believe and acknowledge, but there is just too much evidence of millions of years and thousands of life forms to deny evolution.

Transitional forms are not important to evolution - transitional forms are evolution. No transitional forms means no evolution!

There are transitional forms. Two examples are the horse and the elephant. The predecessor of the horse, Eohippus was a toed animal but the transition to hoofed had begun. A couple of others (names forgotten, no time to look 'em up) retained the remnants of toes until the earliest modern horse which lacked them.

There are animals which were clearly pre-elephants and elephants in the fossil record that no longer exist, but there are no modern elephant fossils found at the same age levels. That seems to indicate a transition.

God created all, but it is presumptuous of us to put Him on a 6000 year timetable. If we accept His Son's sacrifice we will see Him someday, and I'm sure He will answer our questions.

[albionin]

I don’t accept your premises. What does the eitheenth century have to do with anything? You say that there are no natural laws promoting moral values or ethics. There is, The law of identity. Your argument is that reason is impudent in questions of values. I disagree.

[James C. Bennett]

Morality?

1 Samuel 15:3.

[albionin]

Thank you.

[Bellflower]

Also, our idea that there isn't any time in eternity I don't think is exactly correct, because in The Bible it says that His going forth has been been from everlasting. In order to "go forth" you would think there to be a context of some kind of time. Our time is actually likely a block of different time, even in kind, than the time of eternity past and, present and future. Likely a much limited form of time than His.

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.

[tacticalogic]

Yet another exercise in false dichotomy. It must not be considered that God created life with the ability to evolve.

You must choose between evolution and divine creation and be left with inextricable conclusion that if evolution happened, there is no God.

[James C. Bennett]

The problem is that without Time, all events and actions become simultaneous.

So, God, if not under Time, did everything simultaneously in God’s realm. In other words, things such as before and after do not apply. This brings about irreconcilable consequences when God tries to order sequential events.

[Bellflower]

This brings about irreconcilable consequences when God tries to order sequential events.

For us, maybe, but not for Him. That's why He's God. Interesting, though, to try to figure it all out!

[gghd]

You do not like an analogy & you insult people by calling them “idiots.” This is not the ‘proof’ of evolution.

Please, provide a >link where we can actually >watch something evolve. The camera has been around just about as long as the ‘theory’ of evolution. Do you know anyone that has seen something ‘evolve.’

Please don’t tell us how many ‘scientists’ are in agreement as science is NOT a popularity contest.

The fossil record produced so far has only ‘proven’ = there are a >lot of old fossils in the ground. Where be those ‘missing links’ as folks have been digging in the earth for a long time. There are so many fossils in the earth that scientists generally want only the >spectacular dinosaur fossils.

There has been a great change in the ‘theory’ of evolution. The scientists use to think evolution was due to very small changes over a long period of time. Now the ‘popular’ theory is> evolution is the result of cataclysmic events.

There is a reference to electromagnetism theory being understood & intact. Please tell us >what is electromagnetism made out of? What is gravity made out of?
To say it is a “force” does not >actually tell us what it is made of.

When we listen to the “big thinkers” in the scientific community talking about the structure of the University, they speak about subatomic particles as being some sort of >fuzzy ball of a type of energy. The “big thinkers” even go further & say: if we were to >freeze the entire Universe to zero Kelvin, everything in the Universe might just disappear.

That sounds like Religion & ‘The End of Days’ beliefs common to many religions. Do we live in a ‘materialistic’ world or did ‘something’ cause a ‘Big Bang’ of energy that started our Universe into existence?

Creation of the Universe by God means there is a final Judgment according to Christianity.

It would be of interest to the religious people on freerepublic if the believers in evolution would post comments on: The purpose of life here on earth. & Whatever it is they see as ‘the purpose life.’ & Why is it the purpose?

Can answers be provided without insults?