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To: The_Reader_David
It actually began in the time of Newman, who opposed the “noetics” as part of the Oxford Movement. Newman had come to Oxford as an evangelicals, having had his “conversion” moment at at early age, then having seen how “faith alone”provided little guidance against liberalism in religion, began to turn to the Fathers and Tradition for that. Eventually, of course, he does “swim” the Tiber. So did others in the Oxford Movement, but many toughed it out, and started the sect called Anglo-Catholics. Richard Church started the liturgical movement, ending up with an English liturgy based on the prayer book and absolutely gorgeous.

( As an Anglophile, I regretted that when we Latins went for the vernacular that we didn’t use what the Anglicans had done but “invented” the clunky New Mass. that practically reveled in flat language and endless experimentation. That evidentally greatly pained the present pope whose brother was a musician and who himself plays Mozart for pleasure. Thank God, we now a slight improvement in the new translatioin and rubics.)

10 posted on 02/21/2012 10:44:15 AM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS
Thank God, we now a slight improvement in the new translatioin and rubics

Having been raised on Cranmer's prose, I think it's more than a slight improvement. But your initial point is well taken.

11 posted on 02/21/2012 2:48:13 PM PST by trad_anglican
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