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To: Apollo5600
"Come to think of it, your “Church” also denies that we are justified by the faith of Jesus Christ alone, requiring that we follow your Popish rituals and submit to the Pope, spend time in purgatory, be baptized..."

Come to think of it, just about every protestant denomination requires you to be baptised as well. It appears to me that you just as much to disagree about with your fellow protestants as you do with the Catholic Church.

"They can’t hear me. How do you propose that they can hear me while in heaven? How do you propose that one saint can hear the millions of prayers from Catholics across the globe all happening at the same time? Do the angels deliver the prayers one by one? How many angels and how much time do you suppose that requires? Even if Heaven exists outside of space and time, and so timing has no meaning... certainly, even in heaven, they would be quite busy."

No offense meant, but I find this part of your post quite ludicrous. This is a akin to how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. Those glorified in heaven don't face the limits a physical being on earth. You worldview has no correlation whatsoever to that of the saints. The angels don't have to commute back and forth from heaven carrying prayers one at a time. They don't get tired. It doesn't keep them busy. Our fallen perspective is nothing compared to that of the glorified saints.

You make a few other points which I'll address later, if I have time.

42 posted on 02/20/2012 8:44:39 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: NakedRampage

“Come to think of it, just about every protestant denomination requires you to be baptised as well. It appears to me that you just as much to disagree about with your fellow protestants as you do with the Catholic Church.”

It is you who is ignorant here. To be baptized is not a necessary requirement for salvation, and it is not preached anywhere that I know that it is required for salvation. For Catholics, if you are not baptized, even a young child, you go to limbo. Even if you are baptized, you can still wind up in purgatory to burn away your sins that Jesus, apparently, did not handle on His own. If you do not go to mass, you are also in danger of a mortal sin. But if you wear a brown scapular, or if you do this or do that, or if you say a hail mary... well, only good things can happen, right?

But Christ does not require it.

Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

“No offense meant, but I find this part of your post quite ludicrous. This is a akin to how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. Those glorified in heaven don’t face the limits a physical being on earth. You worldview has no correlation whatsoever to that of the saints. The angels don’t have to commute back and forth from heaven carrying prayers one at a time. They don’t get tired. It doesn’t keep them busy. Our fallen perspective is nothing compared to that of the glorified saints.

You make a few other points which I’ll address later, if I have time.”

Only God is omnipresent, and omniscient. A human soul does not possess these abilities, even in an exalted state, but you assume that they do in order to satisfy Roman tradition.


53 posted on 02/20/2012 12:41:46 PM PST by Apollo5600
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