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To: exDemMom; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; EternalVigilance; ...
As a scientist, I object strongly to the characterization of the central theory of my discipline as a crackpot religion.

Are you speaking of the theory of evolution or Darwinism as a whole?

There is, in fact, no religious belief called “Darwinism”.

Religion is defined as a system of beliefs.

EVERYONE has a system of beliefs by which they run their lives and EVERYONE, whether they will admit it or or even aware of it, believes that their system of beliefs is superior to all others. Now, this does not mean that a person's declared religion is actually their governing system of beliefs, but the FACT is that every person has something that they devoutly worship whether it's God, Satan, science, their own intellect or something else.

Unless there is Newtonism, Einsteinism, Gallileoism, etc. Or would those be religious beliefs?

See above.

Some atheists might try to use the theory of evolution as “proof” of the nonexistance of God, but the ToE cannot prove that any more than any other branch of science.

I learned years ago not to really concern myself with evolution. While evolution may be the "public face" of Darwinism, it has ALWAYS been a secondary concern to Darwinists. What they have done is to USE evolution to justify their evil agenda, Hitler's idea of a "master race" is nothing more than a restatement of "survival of the fittest."

Moreover, I don't see where Darwinists have ever really spent much time trying to prove the nonexistence of God; however, they have spent a great deal of time playing god with the entire world.

I don’t need to point out that the use/misuse of science is completely in the hands of the scientist.

No, but the CORE belief of Darwinism is eugenics and eugenics isn't science at all, it is an evil philosophy that has ravaged the world for over a century.

I posted this the other day, but here's what Darwinist atheism gets us:

Rachel Carson (author of "Silent Spring" which resulted in the DDT ban): 50-80 MILLION deaths and rising every year.

Margaret Sanger: 50 MILLION deaths worldwide EVERY YEAR (1 BILLION to 1.2 BILLION worldwide since 1900).

Stalin: 13 MILLION+ deaths.

Hitler: 12 MILLION+ deaths.

Mao: 50-80 MILLION deaths.

So, in just the last century, Darwinist atheism is responsible for the deaths of AT LEAST 1.125 BILLION INNOCENT people. (And note that this only counts the genocide that can be directly attributed to them, if the wars initiated by Stalin, Mao and Hitler were included there would be close to 100 MILLION more.)

If you research the Darwin family (especially Francis Galton and Leonard Darwin), you will see that many abandoned scientific pursuits early on and embraced eugenics. It is IMPOSSIBLE to divorce the Darwin family from eugenics and to pretend that this isn't their true "religion" would require one to totally ignore over a century of evil.

46 posted on 02/20/2012 6:20:58 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I learned years ago not to really concern myself with evolution. While evolution may be the "public face" of Darwinism, it has ALWAYS been a secondary concern to Darwinists. What they have done is to USE evolution to justify their evil agenda, Hitler's idea of a "master race" is nothing more than a restatement of "survival of the fittest."

Indeed - it was a breeding programs like we use for livestock to get the best inheritable traits.

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

48 posted on 02/20/2012 6:35:07 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: wagglebee
No, but the CORE belief of Darwinism is eugenics and eugenics isn't science at all, it is an evil philosophy that has ravaged the world for over a century.

Once again, there is no religion of Darwinism. As far as I can tell, the term is used to try to discredit a theory of science that *some* people feel somehow threatens Christianity. I do have faith that, eventually, people will get over this perceived threat to Christianity, just like they got over the supposed antitheistic theory of heliocentrism. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the Catholic church un-excommunicated Galileo, within the last few decades.

Science concerns itself purely with what can be observed and measured in a systematic fashion. It does not, and cannot, concern itself with the metaphysical. We do not, and never will, have the ability to definitively prove or disprove the existence of God. Anyone who tries to claim that science proves that God doesn't exist (whether they're using the ToE or some other theory as their justification) is a liar.

Furthermore, the use of science as a rationale for committing atrocities is not a condemnation of science. Someone who is set on committing atrocities and who has the power is going to do so, no matter what. It isn't because of some pseudoreligion called "Darwinism" that Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol-Pot, etc., committed their atrocities. They did that because they were fundamentally evil people, drunk with their own power.

If studying or using the theory of evolution has some strange power to turn people into monsters, then I must ask: why aren't thousands of scientists like myself busy committing atrocities right this minute? Could it be because our sense of morality does not come from the scientific theories that guide our research in the lab, but comes from our families and society?

One last point. Those of us who make science our careers do not worship science, any more than musicians worship music or accountants worship ledgers. It's just a profession.

50 posted on 02/20/2012 7:20:40 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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