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To: allmendream; YHAOS; Alamo-Girl

amd: Belief in fixed kinds is typical of Creationists, they believe in a “special” creation of fixed kinds rather than common descent of all species.

Spirited: Very, very true. Christian theists hold that “in the beginning God created man in His own image,” which means that man is the spiritual image bearer of the Triune God-—God the Spirit, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit or Ghost. And since God is a Triune God then it logically follows that His image-bearers are tripart beings: body (matter), heart (spirit, mind, conscience, reason) and soul.

Christian theists hold that man has never been anything other than what he was created by God to be. He has never been seaweed, a reptile, dog, bird, ape or ice cube on a hot summers’ day. Nor has he ever been androgynous after the fashion of certain lower-order creatures. He was never a female dog nor a dung beetle on a pile of dung. No, not ever.

The very ancient notion that man descended over long periods of time from a common lifeform belongs to the realm of monist superstious fantasy called metempsychosis and reincarnation. This is where we find man as dung beetle or female dog in a past life.

What very peculiarly strange times we are passing through. Today there exist two distinct kinds of humans. On one hand are the spritual-image bearers of God and on the other are souless, mindless, genderless genetic soup-mixes claiming that being ‘beingless’ is superior to being God’s spiritual-image bearers.


203 posted on 02/23/2012 9:08:03 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish

Hitler, besides believing in fixed kinds, also thought that only some humans (his own population group) were ‘the image bearers of God’ and that other humans were soulless and mindless.


204 posted on 02/23/2012 9:14:36 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: spirited irish; YHAOS; betty boop; wagglebee
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear sister in Christ!

The very ancient notion that man descended over long periods of time from a common lifeform belongs to the realm of monist superstious fantasy called metempsychosis and reincarnation. This is where we find man as dung beetle or female dog in a past life.

I suspect some Christians who accept common descent haven't really thought it through very well.

We Christians believe that God become enfleshed in the body of a virgin, was born, made water into wine, the blind to see, healed the sick, raised the dead, etc. - died as the propitiation for our sins, resurrected on the third day, awaits in heaven and will come again. We believe that every thing that was made, was made by Him and for Him.

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: - Col 1:16

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. - Revelation 4:11

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. - John 1:1-3

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. - Hebrews 11:3

Since we believe Him about all of this, why would we think He did not specially create man as He said He did?

And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. - Genesis 2:7

God's Name is I AM.

207 posted on 02/23/2012 10:41:42 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: spirited irish
Today there exist two distinct kinds of humans. On one hand are the spiritual-image bearers of God and on the other are souless, mindless, genderless genetic soup-mixes claiming that being ‘beingless’ is superior to being God’s spiritual-image bearers.

Which brings to mind Christ’s admonition to seek out the lost sheep of the flock. Doubly difficult when the lost is grimly determined to remain lost.

220 posted on 02/23/2012 1:29:04 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: spirited irish

Thank you for making this so clear and not garbled with word phrases for those of us unfamilar with the deep things of the scientific world.

Though I do understand science and religion ask different questions and apply different methods of study..... This doesn’t make them incompatible. It does make them distinct....... Claims about God as the creator of life are claims of faith...... Claims that there is no divine power behind the created order are claims of a different kind of faith.

... ‘You do not know’ the works of God who makes everything. Ecclesiastes 11:5

‘By faith’.. we understand.... that the worlds were ‘framed’ by the word of God.” Heb 11:3

God created ‘by simply speaking’. He said what should be created, and it was so! Gen 1:3,6,9,11,14,20,24,26

‘By wisdom’ God made the heavens and the heavenly bodies. Psalm 136:5-9

He has ‘established the world’ by His wisdom, and stretched out the heaven ‘By His understanding’. Jeremiah 51:15


290 posted on 02/24/2012 12:09:42 PM PST by caww
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