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To: wmfights

Does anyone have a good explanation how God could come up with the magnificent creation of man, and relatively speaking, the whole plan literally went to hell 5 minutes after creation when Eve came into the picture?

And also, why didn’t God send Jesus instead of trying again with Noah and the flood?


51 posted on 02/17/2012 3:11:31 PM PST by bramps (Cama, Cama, Cama Chameleon.)
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To: bramps; wmfights
Does anyone have a good explanation how God could come up with the magnificent creation of man, and relatively speaking, the whole plan literally went to hell 5 minutes after creation when Eve came into the picture? And also, why didn’t God send Jesus instead of trying again with Noah and the flood?

Ephesians 1:3-14
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ. In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

We do not have the mind of God, nor the capability to understand God's ways. As high as the heavens are above the earth, so far are his ways above our ways and his thoughts above our thoughts. If we receive his grace through Jesus Christ as our Savior, one day we WILL be able to grasp it all. You ask the $64,000 question. One day, we will know even as we are known. Until then, we trust that the God of all does right.

52 posted on 02/17/2012 4:27:36 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: bramps; boatbums; wmfights
Does anyone have a good explanation how God could come up with the magnificent creation of man, and relatively speaking, the whole plan literally went to hell 5 minutes after creation when Eve came into the picture?

Well, I could say that's what happens when women enter the picture but I'd better not. :O)

I would suggest you answered your own question. The only logical and rational explanation is that this was all part of the plan of God. And it was to simply show us how we are not as "magnificent" as we think we are. In fact, we are bent towards hell and destruction from day one as evidence when the first law was given not to eat of the forbidden fruit. The very thing that we shouldn't do, we do. And its been that way ever since. Everything that God does, every law that He has given, has been for our benefit and our care. And yet we continuously disobey those laws and commands. To help us over this He has given us His grace which we still refuse if it wasn't for Him opening our eyes and ears.

As far as Noah goes, you're underestimating the wickedness and corruption of man. God's wrath exists because it is the only way in our wickedness we will respond to bring us back to Him. If you have any doubts, look at what happens when we have a catastrophe. People flock to the churches all the while questioning how a loving God could do such a thing. (Yet, off they go the next day into a life of sin.) For God to have destroyed the whole earth except Noah and his family simply shows how far we can go as a people.

Christ did not come yet because it wasn't the "fullness of time". It's all part of a plan.

62 posted on 02/19/2012 4:06:30 PM PST by HarleyD
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