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To: bvmtotustuus; D-fendr; wmfights; Iscool

If it is an “ongoing” sacrifice, then it is NOT FINISHED. It cannot be both ways, by definition. Does your church believe/teach that Christ paid the FULL PENALTY for sins?


71 posted on 02/17/2012 7:18:05 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice
It is a Once For All Sacrifice, On Calvary in history it happened once in a bloody manner and the offering to the Father on Calvary as it was offered continues in heaven, as Jesus, as High Priest, in the order of Melchizedek is ever offering His sacrifice to the Father on our behalf. Jesus is Human and Devine. As a human He entered our history in time and space and as God, He is outside of time. The unbloody offering He made to the Father is made to the Father without end and forever, it can not be repeated because it never ends.
75 posted on 02/17/2012 8:47:40 AM PST by bvmtotustuus (totus tuus Blessed Virgin Mary)
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To: smvoice; bvmtotustuus; D-fendr; wmfights; Iscool
If it is an “ongoing” sacrifice, then it is NOT FINISHED. It cannot be both ways, by definition. Does your church believe/teach that Christ paid the FULL PENALTY for sins?

We know they don't. If they did believe the full penalty for sins was paid at Calvary and that once you believe The Gospel you are saved for eternity their house of cards collapses. Once they believe these truths they won't assemble out of obligation, but will gather together in fellowship. Once they believe these truths their clergy will no longer be elevated above believers and will no longer be presumed to have supernatural powers.

No matter how many verses of Scripture you quote they will not believe it. Their faith is in their church not The Gospel.

76 posted on 02/17/2012 9:11:04 AM PST by wmfights
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To: smvoice

Christ’s sacrifice is sufficient for the salvation of all men - in contrast to the teaching of many reformed confessions.

Unless by this you mean Universalism. That’s not what your teachers teach is it?


80 posted on 02/17/2012 10:05:46 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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