[Iscool]

REV 2:26 - “To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations

REV 3:21 - “To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne”.

You are reading these particular verses correctly...However;

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

We Christians are not looking to overcome, we have overcome already...Talk about cherry picking verses, you guys are masters at it...

1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

So look...We have overcome but someone who calls himself a Christian obviously has not...

2Ti 2:15 Study (the bible, not a catechism) to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

It's easy to see why you guys can't figure it out...You are forced to go thru the bible and pick out verses that agree with you religion's theology...As a result, you have to dump all those verses, and there's tons of 'em, that disagree with your religion's theology...

But then you come on here and post some of those scriptures and act like you really know what going on...

It only takes a few seconds to shut you down because you obviously don't know how to deal with and reconcile those verses that you avoid like the plague...

There's only one cure...Get into the bible and don't get out of it...

[johngrace]

My friend. There is no way we get ideas once saved always saved from the bible. If we buy into this saved always. It is from a book or minister or other influence that then gives us a verse. We make it into what it does not declare.

We did not just by reading the new testament only come up with these ideas. First we read it somewhere else then go back to look for it in scripture. Then we prop it up by isolating that verse that we try to prove by bad semantics.

Which also proves some of us do not get it from the bible. Al la solo scriputural. It is a farce from the enemy.

Now we can ask for the guidence until we die. I now I have. I know by the Holy Spirit' s confirmation to myself. I pray a lot . When you pray you know Christ.

We have to cooperate. John the Apostle states IF WE Sin we have to confess our Sin. We respond. Otherwise why does John put IF . If he believed this nonsense. He would not put that we have to confess.

Jesus is love and justice. There is no love or justice if he makes you do it. We are not Robots.

He is not a dictator.

[johngrace]

Let’s be honest. I will ask you a question. Now think when was the first time you figured this out ? A. You read it from the new testament first? Or B.you read it from other books or heard a minister tell you about it then looked up that verse?

[Religion Moderator]

you obviously don't know how to deal with and reconcile those verses that you avoid like the plague

Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.