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And I would simply note with regard to the bishops that they never supported health care reform to begin with

Liar.

Part of the reasons the bishops are in a weak position is that they have been in bed with the evil one leading this country on health care reform.

Catholic Charities does good work but is essentially a branch of the federal government. IMHO it should be suppressed and replaced by a (much smaller) organization that is financed by the faithful and is true to the mission of the church.

The Catholic Health Association is an openly heretical organization led by an open heretic.

Catholic Charities does good work but is essentially a branch of the federal government. IMHO it should be suppressed and replaced by a (much smaller) organization that is financed by the faithful and is true to the mission of the church.

I don't agree with Rush on everything, but on Monday he was addressing this very subject and his point - as yours - was spot on!

The RCC (and most churches to be honest) in an effort to avoid pressure from the government and to offload some fiscal responsibility away from the church itself, bought into the "government giveaways are charity" charade! I mean if you look and listen to the PSA's on TV and the radio, you would think you were listening to some church group explaining how you can get support and help, etc... They try to make it "personal" - when government is not, can not, and SHOULD not be in a "personal" relationship with each and every one of us! They have jobs to do that does not include a personal relationship with each constituent - PERIOD!

Charity, especially church based charity, is about PERSONAL relationships and PERSONAL thought into the people and groups which you support.

Government handouts are about as much like charity as a patron in a strip club "making it rain!" They both give out money, but they are both looking for an advantage or an angle or a return on that investment!

Charity is about doing the right thing, because it is the right thing to do! Charity is about personally caring for a person! As my former Pastor used to say, "What good is it to fill the pockets of a person, if you leave him an empty soul?"

Liar, is the kindest term one can use about Carney. Any visit to the USCCB website will show the Bishops support some form of health care reform. They withdrew their support for Obamacare because of concerns over abortion and artificial birth control.

The problem with this is that Catholic Charities, hospitals, schools et al...don’t limit their assistance to Catholics.

That is why the aid from the government is needed, but that aid should not place these charities under the control of the government.

Unfortunately, the ACLU and other liberal organizations have won in court to force these institutions to set aside their religious mission and convictions in order to continue receiving public aid. In some cases the church has chosen to simply end the services rather than cave to coercion.

A smaller version will result in the need to severely limit
those who are helped by Catholic institutions as there are not enough faithful to support the number of people seeking help.