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To: aruanan; maxwellsmart_agent
That won't be a negotiation. It will be a summary dismissal.

I doubt it. They must have some interesting polling data that leads them to believe they won't lose the 55% of RC's that voted for them the first time. It would be great for America if they are wrong, but over the years I've seen a lot of FReepers claim the RCC is really conservative and I haven't seen it yet.

Look at how artfully the issue has been turned into a discussion about birth control and not State interference in churches, or that the birth control measures include abortion inducing drugs. Our enemy is a lot of things but he is not as dumb as we think, most women take birth control and would love to have someone else pay for it.

13 posted on 02/13/2012 5:11:54 PM PST by wmfights
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To: wmfights
they won't lose the 55% of RC's that voted for them the first time.

If you're going to paraphrase unreliable, unscientific exit polls with suspect methodolgy, at least get the number correct.

most women take birth control and would love to have someone else pay for it.

By the way, do you now or have you in the past, taken oral contraceptives?

16 posted on 02/13/2012 5:19:31 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: wmfights
Look at how artfully the issue has been turned into a discussion about birth control and not State interference in churches, or that the birth control measures include abortion inducing drugs.

This is what the Left does best. They redirect the argument, framing the points in a positive manner. And, sadly, the Right goes right along and enables them all the way. I can still remember my horror at watching FoxNews effectively do everything in their power to give away the last election. When "Joe the Plumber" asked his famous question which elicited a rare honest moment from Obama what did Hannity et al do? Did they hammer at the answer which demonstrated Obama's intentions and attitudes? Nope. Instead they kept inviting "Joe the Plumber" on in hopes of making him a new hero which of course only made it impossible to deflect all the personal attacks which came later. You cannot argue it isn't about him when you make it all about him.

People should have been able to see this future attack coming and prepared for it by keeping things constantly on the candidates mistake. Instead they did the opposite and lost the best opportunity to damage Obama going into the general election. The Right does this all the time and have constantly demonstrated that our worst enemies are invariably our own people. We must stop making it so easy for the Left to constantly control the debate. We must think ahead and anticipate the tactics our opponents are inevitably going to use and thereby be able to put the heat on them rather than always scrambling to defend our positions.

36 posted on 02/13/2012 5:49:15 PM PST by cothrige
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