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To: LisaFab
Rush, the new leadership of the USCCB is very much anti-socialist...

Then explain this:

Statement of Most Reverend Gerald F. Kicanas Bishop of Tucson, Arizona

Vice-President, U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Before

The House Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law on

The Ethical Imperative for Reform of Our Immigration System

If you take the time to read the WHOLE statement you will notice how very much it sounds like a socialist manifesto.

6 posted on 02/13/2012 12:03:37 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr
If charity toward immigrants constitutes socialism, then surely Ronald Reagan was the biggest socialist of all?

All modern popes have condemned socialism (as well as capitalism without conscience).

Pope Benedict has written:

“The State which would provide everything, absorbing everything into itself, would ultimately become a mere bureaucracy incapable of guaranteeing the very thing which the suffering person - every person - needs: namely, loving personal concern. We do not need a State which regulates and controls everything, but a State which, in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity, generously acknowledges and supports initiatives arising from the different social forces and combines spontaneity with closeness to those in need. … In the end, the claim that just social structures would make works of charity superfluous masks a materialist conception of man: the mistaken notion that man can live ‘by bread alone’ (Mt 4:4; cf. Dt 8:3) - a conviction that demeans man and ultimately disregards all that is specifically human.” (Encyclical Deus Caritas Est, December 25, 2005, n. 28)

11 posted on 02/13/2012 12:20:54 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: raybbr

It is such positions that caused Kicanas NOT to be elected head of the USCCB. As vice chairman, he was in line to be given the chairman seat. However, for the first time in many years, if at all, his position was not elevated. Dolan was made Chairman. The USCCB finally is in the hands of traditional Catholic Bishops such as Dolan of NY and Chaput of Philadelphia and quite a few others. Hopefully, it will stay in their control and continue moving back to supporting traditional Catholic positions.


12 posted on 02/13/2012 12:21:52 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: raybbr

He is my bishop and I can’t stand him. He is right out of the Bernadin school of thought. last year I stood up in church and asked him wha the hospitals would do if they forced abortions on the catholic churches and he was mealy mouth and gave me a non-answer. Thank God Dolan was elected head of the USCCB and not him, talk about the right man at the right time. Catholics in Tucson do not like our bishop. We spend a lot of Sunday masses praying the “Migrant Prayer”. His just releasing his statement this Sunday at our Masses tells you how wishy washy he is.


13 posted on 02/13/2012 12:26:32 PM PST by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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To: raybbr
California knows about immigration, and the left.

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17 posted on 02/13/2012 12:29:21 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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