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To: Dutchboy88; smvoice; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; Gamecock; RnMomof7; HarleyD; fish hawk; ...

Sorry, but I don’t believe for a moment that everything Jesus said prior to Acts Chapter 10 applied to the Jews and not to the large majority of the future Church of God. The Beatitudes were not preached by Jesus and recorded just for the Jews.

Was this meant just for the Jews:

7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. 9 Pray then like this:

“Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
10 Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread,
12 and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

14 For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, 15 but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Remember, we are grafted on to the stock - we are not a separate plant:

17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.


54 posted on 02/13/2012 4:41:31 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers

Ah, my local FRiend, Mr Rogers. We never completed our visit about that elusive “free will”. But, here, my FRiend, you are wrong, again.

Please, read the last phrase Jesus adds (one you even appended): “For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. BUT, if you do not forgive men their sins, you Father will not forgive your sins.”

Curious...is this the Gospel you teach?


57 posted on 02/14/2012 7:21:36 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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