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To: stfassisi; Lera; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
I don't deny Christ's Sacrifice,It's never ending since God is outside of time and everything is one event for Him

But Jesus didn't die outside of time. He died here, on this planet IN time.

He died (past tense) once for all and is now seated at the right hand of the Father. In heaven Jesus is not being continually sacrificed but is seated at the Father's right hand waiting for His enemies to be made His footstool and HE is intercedeing for us in the meantime.

It's His death and resurrection which gives us life, not his ongoing continual sacrifice (dying) that gives us life.

If He was continually dying, then He didn't defeat death by rising fromt he grave, but He did rise and conquer death so there's no more need for a sacrifice.

642 posted on 02/12/2012 4:42:06 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
If He was continually dying, then He didn't defeat death by rising fromt he grave, but He did rise and conquer death so there's no more need for a sacrifice.

Amen. Too much Scriptural logic for many RCs to comprehend.

645 posted on 02/12/2012 5:15:18 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom; stfassisi; Lera; CynicalBear
Amen. And He is going to RETURN, to this planet IN time. And set up His Millenial Kingdom IN time. 1000 REAL literal years.

THe problem with people who don't take this literally is that they cannot seem to understand WHAT Christ is doing, AT THIS TIME, AFTER His Ascension and BEFORE His return. He is forming a body of believers, who are spiritually seated in heavenly places IN HIM. He is sending believers as ambassadors for Him, preaching the reconciliation of God and man through His finished work. WHY would He be doing this during this time in heaven?

"That in the AGES TO COME he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus." Eph. 2:7.

Those who are saved during His physical absence on this earth are saved purely by faith. There is nothing we can see, feel, taste, smell, or hear that confirms our salvation. It is the Holy Spirit confirming with our spirit that we are children of God.

In the Ages to Come there will be a group of people who will be the ones God shews the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us. Because we believed and accepted the finished work of Christ for our salvation. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. We do not need to SEE in order to believe. The Church the Body of Christ is built and sustained purely by grace through faith. And God will shew us, the Church the Body of Christ as His kindness and His faithfulness, and His Grace to mankind.

How anyone could set this aside in favor of works of righteousness that can NEVER be attained during this age of the grace of God and His reaching out to us to be reconciled to us PURELY on the finished work of His Son, is beyond my mind to grasp.

646 posted on 02/12/2012 5:19:29 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: metmom
But Jesus didn't die outside of time.

His Time is not ours if you believe Jesus is God.You have a God that is moved if you believe Jesus is God.

But,than again you never said Jesus is God like some of the people you join with against Catholicism, yet some of them who believe Jesus is God believe just as Catholic do. Where does that leave you or them?

647 posted on 02/12/2012 6:16:47 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: metmom
But Jesus didn't die outside of time. He died here, on this planet IN time

You have a God that is moved according to your time and God is not moved according to Scripture

Mal.3:6 " I the Lord do not change.

What happens in God's time is not in our concept of time. It's all one even only accessible as one event in the Eucharist and unconditional love by those who don't reject His Church

Good Night!

649 posted on 02/12/2012 6:31:25 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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