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To: stfassisi; Lera
Here is what’s said in the Talmud you’re defending.

Is that what you think I was doing? Another example of missing the point. I posted what I did to demonstrate that whatever the Catholics want to throw on Martin Luther, gets blown back on them two-fold. You give a non-sourced, out of context quote from Luther to show that he made mistakes and acted in un-Holy Spirit filled ways at times. This tactic to discredit anything else he might say, is proved futile merely because the Catholic Church's history is replete with far worse acts than mere words. And it cannot be blamed on the "we all are sinners, oh well" meme.

That Pope Paul IV included direct actions in an official Bull that not only prohibited them from professions, limiting their financial and commercial activities, forbidding them to own real estate, and humiliating them by obliging them to wear yellow hats, but banning them to ghettos with a single exit, burned thousands of books - not just the Talmud - but even went so far as murder. What Luther may have believed in his final years - and in some things there is no excuse - he had no power of enforcement as the Pope in Rome did. If you do an honest study of Luther's views on the Jewish people, he was against anti-Judaism NOT anti-Semitic. A good source describing "Luther's Attitudes Toward the Jews" is by James Swan. You can read it online at http://tquid.sharpens.org/luther_Jews.htm#_edn11

593 posted on 02/10/2012 9:14:46 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
Thank you for the link. I had always heard only that Martin Luther was anti Semitic. I did not know that he was not against Jews as a people, but rather against the fact that, as a religious group, they depended upon works for righteousness. According to the documentation on the link, he was against all belief systems that depended upon works to obtain righteousness whether Jew, Catholic, Muslim or any other. This being because he knew that salvation could not be obtained through works, but only by grace through faith in Christ. Believing salvation could be obtained by works, he knew, was an abominable belief leading countless into hell.

It is interesting that he had no problem with allowing Jews into the Church who had repented, accepting Christ and His shed blood as their only plea.

622 posted on 02/11/2012 7:19:12 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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