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To: D-fendr; CynicalBear

I’m thinking more of those who were martyred for their stance against the lies of Rome. One of which was the lie that wine is turned into the blood of Christ because an alter christus commands it to be so.


374 posted on 02/08/2012 6:58:47 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice
Ah, history is not your strong suit either. Study a bit of the Roman catacombs and the eucharistic frescos, or read St. Justin Martyr (and try not to root for the persecutors):
And this food is called among us Εὐχαριστία [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, This do in remembrance of Me, Luke 22:19 this is My body; and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, This is My blood; and gave it to them alone.
Where was your church and its martyrs during this time?
377 posted on 02/08/2012 7:08:00 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smvoice; D-fendr

D-fendr likes parading that “martyr” meme out as if it’s some kind of proof of being right. Muslims die every day for their faith. That doesn’t make them the true religion either.


379 posted on 02/08/2012 7:12:27 PM PST by CynicalBear
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