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To: CynicalBear
>>These are the same guys that you deride, yet you believe the words that they wrote and chose for you.<<

That ridiculous meme of the RCC having written scripture is absolutely an affront to the Holy Spirit and the audacity is beyond words. I know Catholics like to take credit for what God does but most of us know better.

Wrote and chose. The historical record is clear. The world of the Protestant is that he will ignore the reality of the situation because it does not sit well with him. How many Protestants were at Nicea, CB?

259 posted on 02/07/2012 6:15:50 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
>>How many Protestants were at Nicea, CB?<<

It was indeed tuff for non Catholics to survive since the RCC put most of them they could find to death but they did survive and finally with the invention of the printing press could get scripture into the hands of the lay people and expose the lies of the RCC. The evil of the RCC will once again reign after the rapture of the true church.

268 posted on 02/07/2012 6:45:57 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: MarkBsnr

A distinction needs to be made between canonizing and collecting.

No man or council can pronounce a work canonical or scriptural, yet man was responsible for ‘collecting’ and ‘preserving’ such works.

F. F. Bruce writes:

“One thing must be emphatically stated. The New Testament books did not become authoritative for the Church because they were formally included in a canonical list;..... on the contrary,.... the Church included them in her canon because she already regarded them as divinely inspired, recognizing their innate worth and generally apostolic authority, direct or indirect.

The first ecclesiastical councils ‘to classify’ the canonical books were both held... in North Africa-at Hippo Regius in 393.... and at Carthage in 397.....-but what these councils did was not to impose something new upon the Christian communities but ‘to codify’ what was already the general practice of these communities .

(F. F. Bruce, The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?, Grand Rapids, Eerdmans, 1960, p. 27).

Therefore the books we have as Scripture were inspired by God and ‘recognized’ as such by man.


294 posted on 02/08/2012 12:00:47 AM PST by caww
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