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To: CynicalBear; NYer; cloudmountain
Take a hint. She wasn’t supposed to be venerated or the apostles would have written about it. As I said earlier, the entire myth of Mariology is just that. Myth. Not sanctioned by scripture.

Are you saying that if it isn't in the Bible, it didn't happen?

(In other words, if there is no mention in the Bible of the original Apostles dying, to you that means they didn't die, or that they were not shown great honor when they died, simply because it wasn't recorded in the Bible? If you do not know the exact circumstances of their deaths, do you then automatically assume those deaths could not possibly have happened? Or would you have to say, "perhaps they died here, at such-and-such date, or perhaps they died there, at this other date -- we don't know for sure"?) Do you really think it would have been unlikely that the other Christians showed them all great honor at their deaths, even if that wasn't recorded in the Holy Scriptures?

By the way, you do understand that "venerate" simply means (by definition) to show great respect, honor, and love towards a person, don't you? (It does NOT mean worship.)

Jesus told the rich guy (recorded in Mark 10) that one of the things he should do to obtain eternal life was to obey the commandments, and he pointed out several specific ones, including the commandment to honor one's father and mother. Do you think Jesus honored his own mother? Do you think Jesus would want everyone else to honor his mother Mary as well? Do you think the original Apostles honored the mother of Jesus?

While (to my knowledge) no one has ever stated that a person must honor Mary in order to gain salvation, it would also appear to me to be a very unwise thing to in some way dis-honor the mother of Jesus, who is God.

(In fact, you should never dishonor anyone's mother.)
74 posted on 02/03/2012 6:57:51 PM PST by Heart-Rest ( "The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15))
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To: Heart-Rest

**(In fact, you should never dishonor anyone’s mother.)**

Ditto, but I would never bow to a statue of anyone’s mother.

Jesus Christ knew exactly what he was doing when he made sure his written Word would have no quotes from him directly addressing Mary as ‘mother’, for he knew that vain men and women would soon elevate her to near god status.

What Mary ‘mothered’, hungered, thirsted, even died and was buried. “But him hath GOD raised up”.


79 posted on 02/03/2012 7:33:43 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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