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To: Quix

What do Catholics think of words from their saints? I’d charge this one with blasphemy, yet he was made a saint. St. Louis de Montfort Honored in Roman Catholic Church
Beatified 1888 by Pope Leo XIII
Canonized 1947 by Pope Pius XII
In going to Jesus through Mary, we are really paying honour to our Lord, for we are showing that, because of our sins, we are unworthy to approach his infinite holiness directly on our own. We are showing that we need Mary, his holy Mother, to be our advocate and mediatrix with him who is our Mediator. We are going to Jesus as Mediator and Brother, and at the same time humbling ourselves before him who is our God and our Judge.

We must never go to our Lord except through Mary, using her intercession and good standing with him. We must never be without her when praying to Jesus.

Beware, chosen soul, of thinking that it is more perfect to direct your work and intention straight to Jesus or straight to God. Without Mary, your work and your intention will be of little value. But if you go to God through Mary, your work will become Mary’s work, and consequently will be most noble and most worthy of God. - St. Louis de Montfort

http://www.ewtn.com/library/Montfort/SECRET.HTM


123 posted on 02/03/2012 11:02:21 PM PST by anglian
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To: anglian

Hideous blasphemy, indeed.


127 posted on 02/03/2012 11:07:53 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: anglian

WOW! Satan really piled it on with that! They will never know HIM.


135 posted on 02/03/2012 11:33:27 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: anglian
I have to admit St. Louis de Montfort has a another literary olds 16th century style to express himself.

It is in the context of his devotional. This time of devotional can be flowery tribute to a Saint with and to God. He is honoring God but also honoring his vessel. When You hear Jesus going thru Mary, he is honoring God's Choice of coming through Mary as a Mother into mankind.

What I see is he is only into the context of a Family( God's Family). Which we as Christians are part of this very Family. But his words are not an absolute. He is showing his opinion on prayer with intercession from Mary but God is in the center of the prayer. So he then goes to explain. "We are going to Jesus as Mediator and Brother, and at the same time humbling ourselves before him who is our God and our Judge."

So many people believe their prayers have been answered. If I have a friend or neighbor who prayers and gets results better than I would alone. I would declare do not pray without my neighbors prayers. Declaring it like a joyful enthusiasm. Which is really an opinion. He is doing the same. Remember it is as a devotional opinion. At Least in my opinion through my own answered prayers.

If I remember this Saint had many miracles because of rosary prayers.

My own Mother prayed and had miracles galore. She was on her knees for one of her sons lost at sea for a daytime hours. The officials were coming back to her with doubt. She knew in the spirit that he was still alive. He was found clinging on a little rubber tube.

My mother also prayed for my other brother who was in the vietnam era not to be killed or have a gun to kill another human being. Or touch soil in the mainland. She did not tell him about the prayers. He came back he wondered why he was stuck on the boat in the south china sea. All his friends from boot camp went to the mainland. He never had to shoot the gun at a person or be shot at in the line of duty.

My father had a stroke the Doctor declared it would be for life. My Mother told the doctor he was Not in the office of God. My mother prayed continually. Well My dad was back at work in a month(? maybe two it was a long time ago)

All by Rosary Prayers which we believe honor intercessory from Mary to true Worship centered on God only.

I hope this helps.

142 posted on 02/04/2012 12:18:27 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: anglian
I have to admit St. Louis de Montfort has a another literary olds 16th century style to express himself.

It is in the context of his devotional. This time of devotional can be flowery tribute to a Saint with and to God. He is honoring God but also honoring his vessel. When You hear Jesus going thru Mary, he is honoring God's Choice of coming through Mary as a Mother into mankind.

What I see is he is only into the context of a Family( God's Family). Which we as Christians are part of this very Family. But his words are not an absolute. He is showing his opinion on prayer with intercession from Mary but God is in the center of the prayer. So he then goes to explain. "We are going to Jesus as Mediator and Brother, and at the same time humbling ourselves before him who is our God and our Judge."

So many people believe their prayers have been answered. If I have a friend or neighbor who prayers and gets results better than I would alone. I would declare do not pray without my neighbors prayers. Declaring it like a joyful enthusiasm. Which is really an opinion. He is doing the same. Remember it is as a devotional opinion. At Least in my opinion through my own answered prayers.

If I remember this Saint had many miracles because of rosary prayers.

My own Mother prayed and had miracles galore. She was on her knees for one of her sons lost at sea for a daytime hours. The officials were coming back to her with doubt. She knew in the spirit that he was still alive. He was found clinging on a little rubber tube.

My mother also prayed for my other brother who was in the vietnam era not to be killed or have a gun to kill another human being. Or touch soil in the mainland. She did not tell him about the prayers. He came back he wondered why he was stuck on the boat in the south china sea. All his friends from boot camp went to the mainland. He never had to shoot the gun at a person or be shot at in the line of duty.

My father had a stroke the Doctor declared it would be for life. My Mother told the doctor he was Not in the office of God. My mother prayed continually. Well My dad was back at work in a month(? maybe two it was a long time ago)

All by Rosary Prayers which we believe honor intercessory from Mary to true Worship centered on God only.

I hope this helps.

143 posted on 02/04/2012 12:18:33 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: anglian
We must never go to our Lord except through Mary, using her intercession and good standing with him. We must never be without her when praying to Jesus.

Many Catholics on FR reference this guy for some reason...He's supposed to be a super saint I guess...

From what I've read of the fella, he doesn't have a relationship with Jesus...Simply put, he's not a Christian...

His relationship is with the queen of heaven...

157 posted on 02/04/2012 7:41:22 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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