[marshmallow]

I don’t think though that I would say that such a large Democrat voting block from a single church, doesn’t need our attempts to influence and persuade them to conservatism though.

So persuade us. Go ahead. Teaching moment for you.

Put some concrete examples in front of us to show us poor Democrat Catholics how your church has embraced conservatism and is leading the way in the fight against Obama.

That would of course mean telling us your church and answering a direct question, both of which you have so far proved incapable of doing.

[ansel12]

I don’t get the attitude.

The goal is for American conservative Catholics to start facing this problem, examine it, and come up with a way to confront it, and bring change, a change that they hopefully desire, or will once they realize what the voting reality is.

This whole conversation is about how Catholic belief leads to liberalism, where even the minority portion of Catholics who vote Republican are really only center right. Of course I see the influence of religious belief. The question is, can American, conservative, Catholics create change.