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To: CynicalBear
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So You use Early Church fathers Did you read This!

Augistine of Hippo:

Letter 53 (A.D. 400) For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: “Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!”

The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: — Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius..

Notice “successor of Peter”.

Just like We know the Presidents of the United States from Washington so Did St. Augustine 300 years later know the successor of Peter.

124 posted on 01/14/2012 11:13:15 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace; smvoice; HossB86; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool; presently no screen name
>>The successor of Peter was Linus,<<

Oh really? Paul didn’t know that when writing to the Romans?

Let’s look at some of the “proof” the CC uses to establish Peter’s place in Rome taken from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11744a.htm.

“must have been known” Must have?

“written almost undoubtedly from Rome” They rest their most important structure of the RCC on “almost undoubtedly”?

“The meaning of this remark must be that the two Apostles laboured personally in Rome”. Another conjecture with no scirptural proof or specific proof from other writings. They only “infer” that Peter was there.

Then 100 years late the myth is starting to entrench itself. Irenaeous makes the statement: “founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious Apostles, Peter and Paul” still with no proof from any writings of the Apostles themselves or proof that Peter was actually ever in Rome let alone head of the church there.

The entire leadership position of Peter is built on an erroneous interpretation of just one verse from scripture then built on supposition and speculation.

178 posted on 01/15/2012 8:27:26 AM PST by CynicalBear
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