There is only ONE true Church

Bible | 33-90 AD | God Christ Jesus Apostle Paul

[bibletruth]

In the present dispensation there is only ONE true Church, which is called the Body of Christ separate and distinct from the prophesied, earthly kingdom of Christ vested in redeemed National Israel as a called-out nation or church, assembly or congregation, above all other nations.

[Cvengr]

Well stated.

[presently no screen name]

I have been baptized and confirmed.

Why are changing the subject? I didn't ask that and it's not the thread topic.

Why do you change the subject to a personal attack on me, rather than answering my objections to why the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic does not hold up for Protestant churches which have gone astray?

Making a response into the default 'personal attack' mode is the catholic way and shows weakness.

Now, besides that, I suggested what you suggested for another. Are you saying one should 'do as you say but not as you do'?

Following JESUS, THE WORD, is NOT going astray.

[CynicalBear]

>>you will find that again and again Peter is referred to as the leader.<<

Only as far as evangelism to the Jews is concerned.

[verga]

In Matthew 16 Jesus is talking to all of the Apostles.

Joh 1:42 He brought him unto Jesus. Jesus looked upon him, and said, Thou art Simon the son of John: thou shalt be called Cephas (which is by interpretation, Peter, which is Rock).

[circlecity]

"It's always nice to meet really, really, gullible people"

Which is why you spend so much time in front of the mirror. And I think Darby was almost as foolish as the Catholics, just not as bloodthirsty. Now go put on a silly pointy hat and flagellate yourself in pennance for the sins of your birth. Have a nice purgatory - I'm sure someone will toss a coin in the coffer for you.

[CynicalBear]

ROFL We were talking about the name in regards to the RCC position of Peter in leadership position specifically from Matthew 16.

[MHGinTN]

Not at all. In fact it was when Peter delivered the Gospel to Cornelius’s household that we witness the Holy Spirit being given to the gentiles. To try and conflate the Holy Spirit Church with the Church in Rome or Virginia Beach is, IMHO, a mistake not to be ignored.

[narses]

“Peter, upon whom is built the Church of Christ, against which the gates of hell shall not prevail, left only one epistle of acknowledged genuinity. Let us concede also a second, which however is doubtful.” Origen, Commentaries on John 5,3

“[T]he blessed Peter, the chosen, the preeminent, the first among the disciples, for whom alone with himself the Savior paid the tribute [Matt. 17:27], quickly grasped and understood their meaning. And what does he say? ‘Behold, we have left all and have followed you’ [Matt. 19:27; Mark 10:28]” Clement of Alexandria, Who Is the Rich Man That Is Saved? 21:3–5

“For what purpose did He shed His blood? It was that He might win these sheep which he entrusted to Peter and his successors.” (St. John of Chysostom, De Sacerdotio, 53

[johngrace]

"Then 100 years late the myth is starting to entrench itself. Irenaeous makes the statement: “founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious Apostles, Peter and Paul” still with no proof from any writings of the Apostles themselves or proof that Peter was actually ever in Rome let alone head of the church there."

Yet you use the same Irenaeous to 'prove' a point that Peter was not there.

Now his other writing states Peter was There!

So he is now wrong!!

You just "sold him out"! Hello!

Your argument does not add up!

[count-your-change]

You will do as you will do, however as Jesus prayed that his disciples would be made holy, sanctified by means of the truth, would it not behoove us to know that truth as accurately as possible?

[Rashputin]

WOW, and third grade taunts, too !!! A real barrel of laughs, including quotes from your favorite comic strip, big words like "bloodthirsty", and best of all, still more proof of total ignorance on the part of the stellar wit who believes scary "The Hash Slinging" slasher fantasies rather than what Christ Himself taught.

I'll have a very nice time in heaven, thank you, and per the Scriptures I'm sure we'll all be purified as if by fire rather than, as so many of the lost seem to think, smuggled into heaven in a diplomatic pouch while God the Father winks at the antics of His Son.

If agree with doctrines built on calling Christ a liar, you don't care Christ as much as you care about yourself, it's that simple. I'll pray to Mary and the Saints on your behalf and hope you one day slience your worship of Self enough to hear the Holy Spirit who will guide you accept Jesus Christ rather than continuing to worship yourself.

have a nice day

[narses]

The "Church of the Trailer Park Preacher" seems to be having a field day today, good work in drawing them out into the light!

[CynicalBear]

Did you not see the reasoning? Look at the statement.

Apostles, Peter and Paul” still with no proof from any writings of the Apostles themselves or proof that Peter was actually ever in Rome let alone head of the church there."

Irenaeous made the statement but only from hearsay with no evidence from scripture or any other writings from the time of the apostles. Yes, I showed that he said it but that he gave no proof for the contention.

Now, if you can show from any writings of the apostles or historians that Peter was bishop of the church in Rome maybe we would have something to discuss.

[narses]

You know, I got to wonder what backwoods sect teaches this stuff, and look what I found!

The Church...

In the present dispensation there is only one true Church, which is called the Body of Christ (I Cor. 12:13; Eph. 1:22,23; 3:1-6) separate and distinct from the prophesied, earthly kingdom of Christ. The historicalmanifestation of the Body of Christ began with the Apostle Paul before he wrote his first epistle (I Thes. 2:14-16; cf. Acts 13:45-46; Phil. 1:5,6 cf. Acts 16; I Cor. 12:13, 27 cf. Acts 18)

[johngrace]

"Jesus did NOT designate Peter as any type of leader."

I have heard people say " no Pope in Early Church" but now there is:

"did not designate Peter as any type of leader".

All most all Protestants Scholars would disagree that "Peter was not a Leader."

Amazing!

[johngrace]

"Jesus did NOT designate Peter as any type of leader."

I have heard people say " no Pope in Early Church" but now there is:

"did not designate Peter as any type of leader".

All most all Protestants Scholars would disagree that "Peter was not a Leader."

Amazing!

[johngrace]

Sorry for double!

[Iscool]

I would not believe in holy scripture if not the directed so by the Catholic Church.

So what??? I think it's pretty clear that your Catholic religion doesn't believe in much of the scripture anyway...

[johngrace]

[johngrace]