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To: lastchance; Dr. Eckleburg

“Again what is your obsession with robes as a sign of their professional station?

Clergy wear robes, not just Catholic priests.
Judges wear robes.
Professors wear robes during certain ceremonies where they display their office.
Graduating students wear robes.
A robe is not a dress.”

Correction priests wear dresses the others wear gowns or robes. I mistakenly treated your post as an opinion. It is instead the unvarnished truth. If you write the other professions do also wear dresses I will further edit to remove my very mistaken statement.


127 posted on 01/17/2012 11:21:35 AM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance

He says he’s anti-authoritarian. Presumably that is also because he believes that he is autonomous.

The problem is that Christ doesn’t teach autonomy. Quite the opposite. Christ teaches submission to the lawful authorities and to God, and finally, last but not least, submission to the Apostles.


129 posted on 01/17/2012 11:43:57 AM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: lastchance
Generally speaking we are not in a position to know when people have the mens rea requisite for them to be accused of lying. And it is probably not our job to judge their motives or whether their ignorance is vincible or invincible, culpable or not.

The requirement that we not accuse people of lying is reasonable. It does make the conversation about the person, which usually doesn't end well. Even if the preponderance of evidence is that they're engaged in vincible ignorance or intentional falsehood, it does no good to point it out.

For, let it be true that they despise the truth. Then falsehood has been aimed at us. And we are blessed. We would probably do better to thank God for the blessing and to seek his help in discerning it than in trying to deal with someone who thinks it good to lie or to broadcast ignorance.

We know what we are to do: to bless, to pray, to ask for more faith. We bear our witness, and shake the dust off our feet. God can do better for those who take refuge in lies, and He wants to do better for them. We must commend them to His love.

131 posted on 01/17/2012 12:29:45 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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