[RnMomof7]

For a more open discussion

[Mad Dawg]

Oh, give it a rest.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Mary: Mother of God?” <<

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Obviously not.

Mary had absolutely nothing to do with Christ’s God-ness; that was in his spirit, not his body. None of his brothers and sisters were gods.

[count-your-change]

The title of the source article, “What Does the Bible Say?”, will no doubt be given a thorough beating as it appears what the Bible says will always take second or third place to the traditions and writings of so called “Church fathers”.

Toss in reinventing the meaning of common words and the fall back position of “It’s all a mystery” and you have the makings of a long and salty thread.

But I keep hoping to be surprised. Cheers!

[CynicalBear]

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.

[wmfights]

It's interesting how Mary's status has evolved over time. Mary was called woman by Jesus. Mary was called woman by Paul. Then after the Apostolic Age ended she was called "suitable vessel" by Ignatius. Then Mary was called the "new Eve" by Justin Martyr. Mary was then called "advocate, intercessor, comforter" by Irenaeus. Finally Mary is referred to by Origen as "ever-virgin Mother of God". All this happened in the span of 200 years.

woman-suitable vessel-new Eve-advocate, intercesor, comforter-ever virgin Mother of God.

Just looking at the progression of this heresy makes a perfect argument for Sola Scriptura rather than Sola Ecclesia. Also, it's telling that it wasn't until John had died that the name changing and role expansion began occurring.

[rzman21]

It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary.

>>Sounds like a series of false analogies to me. BTW, the original Nestorians prayed to Mary. Seems like nothing but ignorance to me.

The following is an excerpt from the Assyrian Liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Mari, which dates at least from the 4th century BEFORE the Council of Ephesus:

Upon the holy altar let there be a Memorial of the Virgin Mary, the mother of Christ. From everlasting to everlasting. O apostles of the Son and friends of the Only-begotten, pray that there may be tranquillity in the creation. Let all the people say, amen and amen. Your Memorial, O our father, is upon the holy altar with the just who were celebrated and the martyrs who were crowned. - Behold, all the departed have gone to rest in your hope, that at the glorious resurrection you might raise them in glory. -

http://stbarnabastheapostle.net/lit1.html

The Assyrian Church of the East REJECTS the Council of Ephesus.

[verga]

perhaps you and the author need to read a little more closely:

Luke 1:43And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord* should come to me?

John 20:28 Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Elizabeth recognized her as the mother of her Lord.

[fabian]

God had no mother..come on now! Jesus , the son of God had an earthly mom, but he had existed far before that in heaven. Silly and ridiculous stuff that religion comes up with sometimes!

[thesaleboat]

Satan's #1 objective: Convince the world he doesn't exist. Satan's #2 objective: Convince the world Mary the Ever Virgin, Mother of God isn't important to eternal salvation.