We shouldn’t equate spiritual with “not real”. Of course angels are real. But that doesn’t mean they have bodies. “Real” does not mean “material”.
If something has a body, it is made of matter. It is subject to the laws of matter. It occupies space and time. Now get someone on here who has measured the mass of an angel, has found its wavelength, has put it in a tub of water and have the water displaced, and then we can talk about the bodies of angels.
Incidentally, there was talk in the Middle Ages of the planets being given motion directly by angels. There’s a longstanding idea that angels can *affect* matter in special ways, that I wouldn’t dispute. But the consensus is that they are not material by nature, and until we discover one in the material universe, it’s best to stick to that presumption.
Nor does "spirit" mean "immaterial".
Now get someone on here who has measured the mass of an angel, has found its wavelength, has put it in a tub of water and have the water displaced, and then we can talk about the bodies of angels.
True, but the author hasn't done any of those tests either.
But the consensus is that they are not material by nature
Consensus is irrelevant. Only facts matter, and we don't have any; certainly not to the level the author supposes.
it’s best to stick to that presumption.
Why? Says who? The presumptions of angels have ranged from Jesus' fellow members of the Bee Gees to fat babies with wings. Others have described them as 14-ft tall, fierce, and intimidating (notice how in the Bible that whenever an angel appears the first thing he says is "Do not be afraid"?).
Human ideas are human ideas, and there's nothing wrong with that, but granting this guy any more credibility than anyone else as he expounds on a topic on which he knows no more than anyone else is unwise.
” There’s a longstanding idea that angels can *affect* matter in special ways, that I wouldn’t dispute. But the consensus is that they are not material by nature, and until we discover one in the material universe, it’s best to stick to that presumption.”
They are material, but not materially perceived by the normal human senses. They exist in this same space at a different frequency that is normally not perceivable. Yes, they can affect matter in material ways as their higher frequency of consciousness has a greater influence over matter. This is also how Jesus did his healing.
I demonstrate this by showing how saying a prayer influences the operational frequency of a person and also how it changes their perception of reality. It’s easy to explain, demonstrate and test.