Posted on 01/08/2012 7:35:38 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
And presented Jesus in an environment that was somewhat hostile to Christianity.
And spread that word for years to millions without attacking anyone.
I'm good with that.
/johnny
Good thing you aren't the final judge of reality.
Even Paul said that we see through a glass, darkly.
/johnny
I have plenty of Scriptural evidence to back up my statements.
The Torah does not speak of Jesus at all.
The messiah will be fully human and not a man-god.
I will post the Torah verses.
Here are verses from the Torah that state G-d is not a man and that Jesus is not G-d.
I Kings 8:60
So that all the nations of the earth may know that the L-rd is G-d and that there is no other.
Isaiah 40:25
To whom then will you liken Me, that I should be his equal?
Isaiah 42:8
I am the L-rd,that is My Name,and My glory I will not give to another.Neither my praise to graven images!
II Kings 19:19
Now,O L-rd our G-d, deliver us from his hand,so that all kingdoms on earth may know that You alone,O L-rd,are G-d.
Isaiah 43:10-11
You are my witnesses,declares the L-rd,and My servant whom I have chosen,so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He.Before Me no god was formed,nor will there be one after Me. I,even I am the L-rd,and besides Me there is no savior.
Deuteronomy 4:35
You are the ones who have been shown,so that you will know that G-d is the Supreme Being,and there is no other besides Him!
Deuteronomy 6:14
You shall not follow other gods,any of the gods of the peoples who surround you!
Deuteronomy 32:39
See,now,that I am He,and no god is with Me!
You can twist the Hebrew scriptures around all you want but the fact is that only G-d is G-d and Jesus is not. There are plenty of other examples.
Here’s a very good verse that just proves my point and one that should be paid attention to VERY closely.
Psalm 146:3
Do not put your trust in princes,nor in the SON OF MAN in whom there IS NO SALVATION.
Isn’t Jesus referred to as the son of man? The caps are used for emphasis.
More verses that prove G-d is not human.
Numbers 23:19
G-d is not a man,that He should lie,nor a mortal that He should change His mind.
I Samuel 15:29
And also the Eternal One of Israel will not lie nor change His mind;for He is not a man,that He should change His mind.
Mark 13:32
But of that day and that hour knows no man,no,not the angels which are in heaven,neither the son,but the Father.
John 14:28
I go unto the Father,for the Father is greater than I.
Clear proof that Jesus is not G-d but is subordinate to G-d.
Matthew 19:16-17
And,behold,one came and said unto him,Good Master,what good thing shall I do,that I may have eternal life? And he (Jesus) said unto him, why callest me good? There is none good but one,that is,G-d,but if thou wilt enter into life,keep the commandments.
Again,where is the evidence that Jesus is G-d?
Luke 2:52
And Jesus increased with wisdom and stature,and in favor with G-d and man.
How can G-d grow in wisdom and stature? How can He grow in his own favor? This verse was taken from Samuel.
I Samuel 2:26
And the child Samuel grew on,and was in favor both with the L-rd,and also with men.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
You need to do more reading!
Your cherry-picked verses were not on that topic, and not your work, either. You live by the hate of others of like motivation.
You are the one who has to do more reading. You Christians are the ones who are guilty of cherry-picking.
My verses were not on topic? Really? Are you afraid of the truth?
Get real.
You wanted me to back up my statements!
I gave you clear-cut evidence.
orthodox Christians have believed for 2,000 years that baptism is required for salavation.
why?
1. it places us “into Christ”
2. it is for the remission of sins
3. it results in receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit
no mention of baptism in the article, so i must conclude the author accepts a 16th century heresy teaching baptism is a useless ceremony.
it’s a shame people reject the Word of God for the 16th century tradition of men.
None of your references were on the topic of who is/is not God.
There are verses where that is the topic, and in each of them, Jesus clearly states that he is God.
That is why it is dangerous to post someone else’s work as your own; you get blamed for their errors.
Uh,every verse I am getting is from the Torah.
Even if Jesus said he is G-d that does not make it so. I could say I’m an astronaut but that doesn’t make it so.
To equate a man with G-d is heretical and blasphemous.
I’m posting someone else’s work? What the f**k does that mean? I get blamed for their errors? Again,What the f**k does that mean?
Is your head in space?
Obviously you have no understanding of god’s word.
Done wasting time with teenager.
I think the whole Tebow thing is just getting some people on edge lol.
*snaps to, tries to smooth the tunic and renders a hand salute of dubious origin*
I actually do better at that when I'm wide awake.
/johnny
Done wasting time with teenager.
Wait.. isn't that what we're supposed to do? Teaching? Leading? Especially children?
Or are you more concerned about being 'right'?
/johnny
What has you so furious that you are wanting to violently attack Christians here? You made your choice to reject Christ to convert to Judism and you know Christians did not join you in that path. You don’t beleive Jesus is the Messiah and what is written about Him and you know Christians do beleive that.
The difference is pretty basic for you to understand and accept without violent fury. Your threats are not going to convert Christians to your point of view. Christians are not intimidated by you and are not going to reject the teachings of Jesus because it makes you violently angry. Very odd.
Jesus proclaimed he was God. “I AM”
He also claimed forgiveness of sins.
There is no doubt as to this as it is in Scripture.
Jesus also showed works of Miracles.
He arose from the dead after 3 days. “I am the Life. The Resurrection”
I have plenty of understanding of G-d’s word. Don’t be one of those arrogant Christians who thinks they know better and that they are the only ones who are saved and the Jews are not.
I am not a teenager,either.
I am not trying to convert anyone. I am just trying to get it into the thick skulls of arrogant Christians who believe they are the only right ones and that the Jews are doomed.
Some of these Christians don’t think that we Jews have an understanding of our own scriptures. Think again. It is they who don’t understand.
Do you have any idea what I am upset about or did you just feel the urge to butt in? I was aiming my comments at a particular individual so please don’t interject unless you know what’s going on.
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