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Wrong. Have you not read Acts 9, where Christ speaks to Saul (Acts 9:4,5)? ANd Ananias (Acts 9:15,16) Not to mention the DIRECT REVELATIONS given to Paul from the risen Christ. Not to mention Paul being caught up to the third heaven, where he saw and heard things that were unlawful for a man to utter? Paul received visions and revelations from Christ. Which he gave to the Church the Body of Christ. Romans through Philemon are a continual revelation from Christ to Paul to believers.

Unless you don't believe Paul.

[BenKenobi]

“Wrong. Have you not read Acts 9, where Christ speaks to Saul (Acts 9:4,5)? ANd Ananias (Acts 9:15,16) Not to mention the DIRECT REVELATIONS given to Paul from the risen Christ.:

You missed the part where I said ‘here on earth?’

“Not to mention Paul being caught up to the third heaven, where he saw and heard things that were unlawful for a man to utter?”

Cool. That’s not a reference to Christ’s earthly ministry.

“Paul received visions and revelations from Christ.”

According to Paul, yes he did.

“Which he gave to the Church the Body of Christ. Romans through Philemon are a continual revelation from Christ to Paul to believers.”

Again, as I said the Epistles refer back to what Christ did in the Gospels.

“Unless you don’t believe Paul.”

I’m a historian. What I mean by a ‘direct reference’, is how the term is used by historians. That means that events that were independently witnessed, etc.

That doesn’t include revelations from God.

Now, I believe what Paul is saying about receiving direct revelation from God. That’s a different standard of evidence then for things that were independently witnessed.

I hope my point’s somewhat clearer.