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The Sacrament of Holy Orders
The Ethiopian Orthodox Tehwahedo Faith and Order ^ | Fr. Marcus Daoud

Posted on 01/01/2012 3:02:56 PM PST by rzman21

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1 posted on 01/01/2012 3:03:05 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

“Some Protestants say that Christ did not distinguish anyone in His church, and that all the members are the same, and that there is no need for separating special persons as ministers. This is utterly wrong, because of the following reasons: (1) Christ set apart special persons as Apostles, and spent a whole night before choosing them. “

Within a special caucus thread, are you supposed to tear down the beliefs of other Christians?


2 posted on 01/01/2012 3:06:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“The “caucus” article and posts must not compare beliefs or speak in behalf of a belief outside the caucus”

From the Religion Moderator’s page... fyi


3 posted on 01/01/2012 3:09:12 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: rzman21

We have Ethiopian Orthodox Tehwahedo here in the Charlotte area. Also Eritrean Roman Catholics. It’s a big ol’ world out there, full of people with cool clothes.


4 posted on 01/01/2012 5:20:48 PM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough for this.)
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To: rzman21

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tehwahedo Faith and Order

That’s a new one. So much for unity in the Catholic church.

Working on that 30,000 rites, eh?


5 posted on 01/01/2012 5:51:07 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: rzman21; metmom; smvoice; boatbums; caww; RnMomof7; Iscool
>> This promise is of course taken to be valid for their successors also.<<

aka Assumed, made up, no scriptural evidence.

>> The Bible appointed certain conditions which should be observed when choosing the bishops, and other conditions when choosing the deacons.<<

And Catholic priests and bishops don’t qualify.

>> And according to the power given to them by the Lord those Apostles appointed bishops, priests<<

Name one priest they appointed and give the scripture.

6 posted on 01/01/2012 6:06:52 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; BenKenobi; Salvation; MarkBsnr; narses; Jvette; one Lord one faith one baptism

First, get rid of the Catholic/Orthodox caucus tag. Second,let the Catholic bashing begin.


7 posted on 01/01/2012 6:12:35 PM PST by rzman21
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To: metmom

“This is utterly wrong, because of the following reasons: (1) Christ set apart special persons as Apostles, and spent a whole night before choosing them. “And it came to pass in those days, that He went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all nigh in prayer to God. And when it was day He called unto Him His disciples: and of them He chose twelve whom also He named Apostles.” (Luke 6:12, 13)”

The absurdity of this statement is evidenced by the facts; Judas Iscariot was one of the original 12; Thomas was not present when Jesus breathed on those present and gave them the Holy Spirit; Matthias was chosen by a roll of the dice; after Stephen’s martyrdom the scattered church “went every where preaching the word”; “For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many.”


8 posted on 01/01/2012 6:25:04 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: metmom

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church isn’t part of the Catholic Church.

But it is one of the oldest Churches in all of Christendom, and unlike other Christian Churches it converted from Judaism to Christianity.

It split with the Catholic world in 451 A.D. after rejecting the Council of Chalcedon’s decree that Jesus had two natures.

Plus, Ethiopia was independent of Rome and converted to Christianity at a time when the Roman state was persecuting Catholics.

It’s teachings on 95 percent all matters of faith are identical to that of the Roman Catholics save for the papacy.


9 posted on 01/01/2012 6:27:54 PM PST by rzman21
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To: CynicalBear

Christ appointed these priests and they contributed to the Scripture — some in huge ways, some in small ways;

Peter, Andres, John, James, Matthew, Simon, Thomas, Jude; Phillip, James the Less, Bartholomew, Matthias who replaced Judas Iscariot.

And if you want to count Paul you can too.


10 posted on 01/01/2012 6:40:38 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tax-chick

My apartment outside of D.C. is largely made up of Ethiopians.

I am fascinated by the fact their rites developed out of their indigenous form of Judaism, which claimed to have been brought by the Queen of Sheba from Solomon’s Jerusalem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x4zXg2aOSc


11 posted on 01/01/2012 6:41:45 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21; CynicalBear; Religion Moderator

Just because someone might disagree with the Catholic Doctrine does not mean that the Catholic Caucus tag needs to be removed.

I believe this was requested and done in error. (Judith Anne talking through me! LOL!)


12 posted on 01/01/2012 6:43:40 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Eusebius’s Ecclesiastical History shows the development and growth of the Church from the time of Acts to the 4th century.
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/250102.htm

The egalitarian Christianity of the Radical “Reformation” didn’t exist.


13 posted on 01/01/2012 6:45:35 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21; CynicalBear; Religion Moderator

Did not Paul ordain Timothy a priest too?

That statement was totally Biblical and totally Catholic.

Please, I request the resotration of the Caucus label.


14 posted on 01/01/2012 6:47:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
>> Christ appointed these priests<<

Priests? Christ appointed them priests? Would you please provide the scripture where He did that?

15 posted on 01/01/2012 6:49:09 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; Religion Moderator

**aka Assumed, made up, no scriptural evidence.**

Are you trying to read the mind of the author now?


16 posted on 01/01/2012 6:49:44 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
>>Did not Paul ordain Timothy a priest too?<<

Please provide the scripture that proves that. Specific book, chapter and verse/verses.

17 posted on 01/01/2012 6:51:01 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Salvation
>>Are you trying to read the mind of the author now?<<

Nope, simply stating there is no scriptural proof of that statement thus had to have been made up or a belief injected.

18 posted on 01/01/2012 6:53:20 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

It’s quoted above.


19 posted on 01/01/2012 6:54:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CynicalBear

I asked you for the question. Please answer it.

You, I think, know it is true as I do.


20 posted on 01/01/2012 6:55:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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