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To: BenKenobi; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
You have already submitted yourselves to infalliable Rome, for you bind yourselves to the book she has written.

And this is EXACTLY what I stated earlier was behind the Catholic church's claims of having written Scripture.

By laying claim to the authorship of Scripture, they can then makes claims of control of interpretation and authority over anyone who believes it.

It's a power ploy, nothing less and the Catholic church will NEVER convince the believer in Jesus that accepting Scripture as authority is by default accepting the authority of the RCC nor will they be forced by that reasoning to accept the Catholic church's claims of being the only reliable interpreter of Scripture.

Again, the OT was written well before the RCC ever came into existence to its claims of writing Scripture are proved false from the get go. There's no reason to trust them any further on their claims of writing the NT when it so patently obvious that their claim to writing the OT is so easily falsified.

694 posted on 01/07/2012 8:27:48 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; daniel1212
And this is EXACTLY what I stated earlier was behind the Catholic church's claims of having written Scripture. By laying claim to the authorship of Scripture, they can then makes claims of control of interpretation and authority over anyone who believes it.

And as Daniel1212 said so well, to make such an assertion would, by default, mean that we would ALL be under the authority of the Seat of Moses, for the Jews were the ones who put together the OT which was written almost entirely by Jews. The only way the RCC can even make such a statement is by laying claim to all the writers of Holy Scripture as all being members of the Catholic Church. But we know very well that they were part of the body of Christ, the church, which could be called the catholic church because it was the universal church of all believers. That church, BTW, which we are ALL members of who have received Jesus Christ. But the Roman Catholic Church, which did not come to head the Christian world until the fourth century, has NO claim to authorship NOR to control over its interpretation, much less authority over all Christians. Instead, they desire to be as the Pharisees were in Jesus' day and we know how well that went over with him.

697 posted on 01/07/2012 8:56:50 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: metmom; BenKenobi
You have already submitted yourselves to infalliable Rome, for you bind yourselves to the book she has written.

Hard to believe he or anone could make such a statement like that Metmom....flies in the very face of God the Father doesn't it.....that 'Rome' is who we submit to???? He willing denys Christ's rightful place for stating that....and clearly evidences how twisted their minds can become by such profound false teachings...and actually believe it!!! How dark the darkness they are in.....

Rome didn't write the scriptures....what nonsense is that!!

698 posted on 01/07/2012 9:08:28 PM PST by caww
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To: metmom
And with the claim of having written the Bible comes the inevitable claim of having the authority to say whether one may read what Bible translation and under what circumstances.

“In general, the Church has always allowed the reading of the Bible in the vernacular, if it was desirable for the spiritual needs of her children; she has forbidden it only when it was almost certain to cause serious spiritual harm.”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Scriptures)

Ah...the good old days of the Index...

702 posted on 01/07/2012 10:32:19 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom
Galatians 4:17 - They zealously affect you, but not well; yea, they would exclude you, that ye might affect them.

New International Version (©1984) Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you [from us], so that you may be zealous for them.

New Living Translation (©2007) Those false teachers are so eager to win your favor, but their intentions are not good. They are trying to shut you off from me so that you will pay attention only to them.

English Standard Version (©2001) They make much of you, but for no good purpose. They want to shut you out, that you may make much of them.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) They eagerly seek you, not commendably, but they wish to shut you out so that you will seek them.

703 posted on 01/08/2012 3:00:38 AM PST by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: metmom; BenKenobi
You have already submitted yourselves to infalliable Rome, for you bind yourselves to the book she has written.

That's the claws are catholicsm reaching out to bring in the more for satan's kingdom through deception.

And here is what Jesus has to say about that..
"I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; NO ONE can snatch them out of My Hand". John 10:28
714 posted on 01/08/2012 7:25:18 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: metmom

“Again, the OT was written well before the RCC ever came into existence to its claims of writing Scripture are proved false from the get go. There’s no reason to trust them any further on their claims of writing the NT when it so patently obvious that their claim to writing the OT is so easily falsified.”

So the only part of Scripture that is authoritative is the OT?


726 posted on 01/08/2012 10:55:55 AM PST by BenKenobi
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