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To: BenKenobi; presently no screen name
"The bible is not an exhaustive work covering the early church. It covers those parts that are necessary for our salvation.".

So, you're saying that the church is not necessary for salvation? That the Bible is the only thing necessary for our salvation and not the Catholic Church with her traditions and doctrines of men?

669 posted on 01/07/2012 9:09:27 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice

“So, you’re saying that the church is not necessary for salvation?”

What does Romans say about this question? Romans says that the one without the Law will be a law unto himself. You don’t even need knowledge of scripture to be saved.

Of course, it does help, because as people come to know the Gospels they are more likely to come to him.

Same with the Church. The Gospels themselves speak as to how the purpose of the Church was to spread the Word - everywhere, and the bible helps with this tremendously. But bibles don’t get there by themselves.

That is what the Church is for, and if you don’t believe me, look up the Great Commission.

“That the Bible is the only thing necessary for our salvation”

Scripture doesn’t teach this. It does teach that the bible is sufficient - that everything you do need is there, but it doesn’t teach the unbiblical notion that it is required.

“Catholic Church with her traditions and doctrines of men?”

Scripture herself affirms and exhorts Timothy to pass on those traditions. The bible was written through oral tradition, and was compiled through the tradition of the magisterium and their authority to recognize inspired works.

Don’t believe me - look at the history behind it. Ut’s all there Scripture AND tradition.


671 posted on 01/07/2012 9:21:15 AM PST by BenKenobi
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To: smvoice; BenKenobi
BK: "The bible is not an exhaustive work covering the early church. It covers those parts that are necessary for our salvation.".

smvoice: So, you're saying that the church is not necessary for salvation? That the Bible is the only thing necessary for our salvation and not the Catholic Church with her traditions and doctrines of men?

That's how it reads.

678 posted on 01/07/2012 10:18:57 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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