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To: BenKenobi; daniel1212
I’m glad you were candid enough to tell me what you believe. However, you’ve just reinforced my assessment.

Your "assessment" would be incorrect - STILL. For the record, I left the Catholic Church while I was still a virgin, so I highly doubt you can pin the "disagree with the church on contraception" excuse as my motive. If you expect people to remain "candid" with you, you will have to take them at their word when reasons are shared.

What did you think when you read the previous survey results posted by Daniel1212 about the percentage of Catholics that disagree about contraception YET stay in the church?

417 posted on 01/04/2012 9:54:28 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums

“If you expect people to remain “candid” with you, you will have to take them at their word when reasons are shared.”

Motivations or not, facts are still facts. You disagree with what the Catholic church teaches on contraception. You also left the church. If you flipped a coin, and kept getting heads, you would think that this warranted more investigation.

This is what I’m seeing. If I were to ask Ex-Catholics, I would be very, very surprised to see any of them saying that they believed that the Church was right on conception. Why? I don’t know. I have my suspicions.

It’s not something you can draw out one piece at a time. There’s some fundamental difference here that’s associated with the other fundamental differences.

“What did you think when you read the previous survey results posted by Daniel1212 about the percentage of Catholics that disagree about contraception YET stay in the church?”

You familiar with evaporation? Same principle. The ones who stay are the ones who don’t have the same energy as the ones who leave. But it’s the same underlying problem with both of them. That’s what I want to get at, because once that is understood, then you tackle both problems at once.

It doesn’t have so much to do with contraception per se, but it has to do with the understanding of the body.


418 posted on 01/04/2012 10:13:01 PM PST by BenKenobi
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